I've heard that some women are unsatisfied with female heroes in popular culture. The best example of a female hero lately: She's incredibly popular and her standalone movie was great. The problem with her as a female hero (edit: according to commentary given by some pop culture philosophers) is that almost everything she does is typical of male heroes and might not be something women identify with, on average. Now, people live on a bell curve, and there are real life women more bad ass than any man I know: But their experiences are outliers compared to what most women in our society live through, and so it seems like while more women (and men) can root for Wonder Woman, the meat of her plots aren't applicable except in the broadest psychological sense. ^As a fan, I hugely admire both Rose and Torres. Edit: I'm not implying that men are actually superheroes. Only that men are more likely than women to engage in hierarchical combat, violence, or violent professions. For that reason, depictions of the hero's journey that focus on violence and physical force (including stories such as Wonder Woman) are going to be more relevant to men using them as inspiration for how they might like to be. So, what I'd like to hear about are your feelings on what a satisfying hero's journey looks like for average female readers, especially for female fans of genre fiction (science fiction, fantasy, thriller, crime, romance). There has been some scholarly work done on the feminine hero's journey: https://heroinejourneys.com/heroines-journey/ ^ This one goes back to one of Joseph Campbell's students, who developed it through therapy with her clients, believing that the heroes journey as presented didn't cut it. I'll need to read some examples to really get the above chart. Jordan Peterson, I'll warn you, has an aggravating way of talking about things. I'm pretty thick skinned and as privileged as they come, and I still find him annoying - though he is the only person in the public eye talking about a lot of important issues. Here, he discusses how Beauty and the Beast is the basic Feminine Heroes Journey: Maybe he's onto something that's got broad appeal, but I'd need more to go on to buy his opinion on this as universal as the normal heroes journey. Personally, I have a feeling that the standard HJ is applicable to many kinds of fiction, especially if you interpret things broadly. For reference: Take one of my favorite romance novels, a f/f love story written by a woman, probably for women. The plot points follow the HJ pretty well: Call to Adventure: Highschool friend returns home successful and rich, asks girl to come work with her Supernatural Aid: Support of friends Threshold Guardian: Coming out to family Mentor: New friends show her the ropes of the job Challenges and Temptations: Entering a relationship Abyss: Classic mid book breakup due to terrible social pressures and disaster Transformation: Reconciling with internal attitudes and feelings about society Atonement: Getting back together Return: HEA If it's fair to use the HJ in that way to describe plots, you can find it in all kinds of stories, often in very social, interpersonal stories about the lives of regular people. One of the most successful HJs of the 20th century has to be "The Wizard of Oz." There is nothing about Dorothy that strikes me as typically masculine, and she goes through the adventure without resorting to kicking everyone's butt, using leadership and understanding to get the job done: https://www.shmoop.com/wizard-of-oz/heros-journey.html What do you say?