find the perfect size without printing. But how?

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  1. beehoney

    beehoney Member

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    @Martin Beerbom I could write in German too. But it's not fair for other users when I am do that.—Not everyone speaks German. So, duh.
     
  2. Martin Beerbom

    Martin Beerbom Senior Member

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    I thought I offer it if there are problems.
     
  3. beehoney

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    @Martin Beerbom mmh...but the programs are interesting. I google it maybe.
     
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    Page plus is still available as a legacy download though and will do everything a teenager is likely to need. I'd also note that you can get single app packages with adobe which is 29.99 pcm for indesign - full price, so about £10 for student
     
  5. Martin Beerbom

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    Yes, forgot to mention the legacy part about PagePlus.

    I must say that I agree that Adobe's pricing are very high, in particular since they switched to subscription. If you use it professionally, the price may be OK, but for interested hobbyists who do not need their cloud and library items (fonts, brushes, macros etc.) it's just too much. I know even a few freelance and small company professionals who have switched to Serif/Affinity Photo from Adobe PhotoShop – cause the price difference is hard to beat. That includes the education pricing, though I must admit that I have a deep seated aversion against subscriptions for software (subscription for services like their creative cloud is another matter, but they do not separate service and software). You'll get a great deal of their software functionality with cheaper alternatives (like the Serif/Affinity applications). Note: I have worked with Adobe's CS packages until CS6 (student/education version) – because I got them dirt cheap with a volume license from a university. I don't miss any function with the alternatives I have.

    Since, AFAIK, PagePlus is Win only, Just in case there's interest, here's a cheap commercial similar application for the Mac: iStudio Publisher. ~$/€/£20 price range (also on the Mac AppStore). ~$/€/£12 education from their webpage.

    And there's of course Scribus as the cross-platform open-source free alternative.
     
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  6. beehoney

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    @Martin Beerbom Well, I am windows user—do you have for this programs?
     
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    If you just want to see what it would look like printed without using ink and paper, you could also use a virtual printer like Bullzip PDF or Foxit. It's basically just a program you install that acts like a printer in your system, but instead of printing to paper, it creates an image or PDF file of what you're working on that you can peruse and delete without using any consumables.
     
  8. Martin Beerbom

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    I'm on a Mac, so I do not have that much knowledge about what's available for Win.

    Summary:

    Equivalents to Adobe InDesign (Desktop Publishing):
    - Scribus: Open-source, free, Win, Mac, Linux, https://www.scribus.net/downloads/.
    - Serif PagePlus: Legacy software, ~€20, Win, http://www.serif.com.

    Equivalent to Adobe PhotoShop (Photo/Image editing):
    - Serif Affinity Photo: Win, Mac. ~€50, educational on request, free trial, https://affinity.serif.com/de/.

    Equivalent to Adobe Illustrator (Drawing/Painting/Design):
    - Serif Affinity Designer: Win, Mac. ~€50, educational on request, free trial, https://affinity.serif.com/de/.
     
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  9. Martin Beerbom

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    It just occurred to me: If you really care about typography, and great looking printed text documents, you should check out LaTeX (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX). Be warned that it involves a steep learning curve, because it works differently from everything else mentioned so far, but once you manage the manage the basics, it does produce beautiful, professional looking texts. It's all open-source and free.

    There's a fairly active community in academics for it, in particular in Germany. I have written my two theses (diploma and PhD) with it. It's often sold for math typesetting (for which it is really recommended), but it works for everything else as well.

    If you're interested at all, I can guide you through the installation and to introductions.
     
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