Gary Glitter back In Britain

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  1. Raven

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    It may not be civilised but I care not with these fellons. they have a sickness incurable at that. And I'd rather my tax's don't pay to feed 'em let alone they breath oxygen I could be breathing.
     
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    Having been preyed upon as a child by such scum...I have to agree with you Raven. What good is it to keep something like this around and take a chance that he might do it again? I don't care how much effort is put into keeping tabs on him, they do at times find a way to inflict their sickness onto the innocent.
     
  3. maddiemae

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    The worse the physical threat to them the more likely they are to kill the victim. My cousin was a counselor and a probation and parole officer, and I, a Behavior Scientist co-counselor, during the 1980-s and early 1990's. My cousin and I had both been molested by her grandfather (my great uncle). She became 'sympathetic' with the molesters after awhile and needed hospitalization. They are very very charming. I learned from my experience as a child NOT to trust. Their recovery potential is 1% and I believe that is high.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't put them under, though. I live in Idaho; we are currently deciding what to do with Joseph Duncan.
     
  4. Jade

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    So it's okay for him to come back to the UK and be a danger to kids here? :confused:

    I don't think he should be in prison, because thats just a waste of taxpayers money, but house arrest would be good. Also parents nearby to where he lived would need to be warned.
     
  5. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    The British nation seams to be one of the only countries in the world that still half believes in Human Rights.
    And I'm not sure about that.
     
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    Glitter in my opinion has no rights human and otherwise. To do harm to a minor is wrong in so many ways but to do something explicit to a Minor is sick beyond sick.

    It churns the stomach to think of it and he time after time continued. That’s just so evil in many ways. I hate to see kids in distress and yet these evil dregs of scum get off on it. Those poor children will be scared for life and he's crapping himself about coming back to the UK. Oh i bet he is.

    I spent many years as a soldier in the British army and I've spent my time in hostile places and of all the hostile situations I've been in I can honestly say if someone put a gun in my hand and said I wont go to prison I'd shoot.
    And if it was one of my kids I'd shoot anyway.

    There is no mercy for these individuals.
     
  7. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    Though this statement greatly contradicts my VERY pacifist views, there is a harsh part of me agreeing with you entirely.
     
  8. Banzai

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    He has been refused entry to both Hong Kong, and Thailand. Looks like a game of "pass the paedophile" is on the cards...
     
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    Glitter? what's going on?
     
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    Pass the paedophile... hehehe *giggles*

    I'm sorry its just sounds amusing.
    But yeah. He needs shot. I'm against the death penatly but he is sick.
     
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    Don't you think shooting is too quick? Personally, I think injecting bleach into the veins in his ankles is a bit more deserved.
     
  12. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    Boy, when you torture someone, you go the whole nine yards don't you?
    Why not go with Napalm instead, hear that works a treat.

    Really people, as a civilised society don't you think all this talk is a little extreme?
    We ARE talking about a murder here.
    Remeber that.
     
  13. Cogito

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    "You have been designated persona non grata everywhere on the planet. But feel free to land on Uranus."

    Or rubbish disposal.

    So here's a question. Are there acts so vile as to consider the peroetrator no longer entitled to human rights? That in essence surrender any right to be called human?

    When answering, try to at least avoid the reflex of assuming everyone is equal. Yes, everyone begins as human, but can choices someone makes surrender that status? (In posing it that way, I'm not saying you cannot decide that being human is not forfeitable, just that you consider the possibility).
     
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    I think he should be released from custody with no strings attached...as follows...
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    just let him go IN the village where he molested those girls! Justice will be swift.
     
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    I am not debating for either side, but let me say...until you know what it is like to be on the recieiving side of "Litter's" kind of abuse, you can never know just how much disgust is felt for his kind.
    I say roll him in bacon fat...throw him to several wild dogs...and let them have their way with him.
     
  16. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    I can understand that. I just think we should take a step back and be civil.
    Yes, he is a monster, we can all agree on that, and I am not defending him.
    I just think that there should be other options than killing him.
    I'm all for a castration, but not murder.

    I honestly don't think there is. Not to let society degrade it's self until it becomes little better than a big group of thugs. And don't think that I'm one of these Socialists that think everyone is equal. I'm not, I agree some people make them selves more useful than others and some are born privileged. I just also believe in civil Law and Justice.

    But remeber, I am training to become an officer of the law. I am getting this viewpoint drilled into me.
     
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    Napalm is, again, too quick. Injecting into the veins means it travels slowly. In the ankles, means it takes longer to reach major organs.

    And yes, it is extreme. But I've seen victims on this, the sweetest, loveliest people you could ever wish to meet, whose lives have been ruined because of it. Would I commit the sin, on their behalf? You better believe I would.
     
  18. Still Life

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    I'm with Lemex on this one.

    Besides, murder would be giving him the easy way out, while those girls still have to live and suffer for the rest of their lives.
     
  19. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    My point exactly. :)
     
  20. Cogito

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    One could wish for karma, that the pedo-predator would return as each of his victims.

    But I reject the corollary notion that that would impliy that the victims are paying for another life of predation.
     
  21. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    Karma would be nice, like he getting raped in prison by a big burly man named Pete.

    I just look upon this subject in the viewpoint of a civil servant. As Policing is my dream job, I sort of have too. There is no way I would, not even for a second, let him off with his crimes, but I have to restrain my own emotions for the sake of our justice system.
     
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    I agree with you in part, Lemex. But only in part.

    I still remember when the Jeffry Dalmer trial was taking place here in the U.S. The families of the victims were given the opportunity to speak their peace to Jeffry at one point toward the end of the trials.

    There was one young African American woman who was so emotionally aggrieved, so incensed by what had happened to her brother at the hands of Jeffry Dalmer that she completely flipped out in the court room. She was not a small woman; she looked like she could handle herself quite well in a scuffle. She had to be detained by the officers of the court.

    I was angry that she was detained.

    As far as I am concerned, they should have let her have at him. Wouldn't that be Karma?
     
  23. Cogito

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    I was thinking of the more literal karma, in which how you have lived your life determines the next corporeal form your sould will take. I dis take liberties with time, though, in assuming the incarnations could coexist at the same time.

    The prison form of karma is a perpetuation of the offense - all that changes is the offender.

    So how can a justice system deliver justice when it is mandated to deliver uniform consequences to offenses which are anything but uniform? To a system which places an arbitrary limit on what punishment can be doled out, where no such limits wxist on criminality?
     
  24. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    As all Police Officers say at this point in time.

    "I don't make the Law, I just enforce it." :p
     
  25. Banzai

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    That doesn't make it right...

    Judges should be given more freedom to hand out sentences varrying based upon the crime.
     

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