In dedication to mammamaia

Mammamia isn't all that great, but what do I know...
Also I'd like to say that I find your views on men disgusting and pretty naieve. You shouldn't be writing, get back in the kitchen, that oven isn't gonna turn itself on.

 

hmmm that site what well....I'll just say interesting and then look for the exit right about now.....

 

What is it with us latley???!!!!!!

And E-Bow... maybe you should of said something a little less offensive. I'm offended but then again, this thread shouldn't be continued like it has been in the past few hours. This is getting ridiculous!

 

amen!... and thank you, oz!

now, can we please get off my case and close this thread, if all it's going to be is a battlefield?

 

Bloody hell, how precisely did you lot turn an appreciation thread into a fight? Maia is right. Regardless of what you think of her views, stop posting intentionally offensive posts (which is flaming, and banned under the site rules, come to think of it) and will a mod please close this train wreck of a thread.

 

Yes, flaming is not allowed. But not all disagreement is intentionally offensive.
I haven't used profanity or abuse, nor have I made any comments about Maia as an individual. I'm not interested in abusing a 68 year old mother of 7.
It is Maia who has attempted, clumsily I feel, to reject all my comments by portraying me as someone driven by certain psychological problems.

These are flame comments. They don't respond to my comments about her work, they just attacked me as an individual.
Put that aside.
I'm sure that we agree on many things, and strongly disagree on others. We're both concerned with ecology, the evils imperialism and modern geopolitics/petropolitics.
But...
Maia has put these points of view into the public domain and invited site viewers to read them. She has also praised blunt, honest criticism. I've made specific comments about her work and I've been told I took them out of context. The readers of the thread can go to her site and judge for themselves. I would welcome a full and thorough defence of her position from her because I don't see how out of context you can take a line like "Are sentient males necessary?"

I think it would be tragic if this site were to shut down any attempt at debate. Why are you content to have profanity, graphic sexual imagery and hate anthems in the poetry threads, but when someone stands up and says "I disagree with you" the site resorts to the totalitarian approach of closing the thread.

I am very surprised that someone like Maia, who is clearly concerned with the fate of the planet and the evils man perpetrates against man, when the critical "gaze of Medusa" falls on her own writing, should turn around and promote the quashing of all debate.

I can understand why you might think this is a strange thread to post a response in - but the theme is your legacy Maia. This is part of the impact you have had on the world. The reaction I have had to your diatribe against half the human race:

I think If a man, a grown adult, devoted his spare time to writing a serious article about what a bunch of murderous, evil wh***s women are, and went onto a site full of children and invited them to read it, then you would be right alongside me in criticising him.

I do disagree with your anti-humanistic, anti-life moralism.

Men are too evil to exist? We deserve to be extinct? I, like you, watched my own father die - I just don't understand how you can turn around and say men/mankind deserves to become extinct. And I don't think I will ever agree with such priggish, self-righteousness.
You spread these words around the site and posted the link.
Here's a response!
Come on Maia, are you really going to stand in favor of silencing all those who disagree with your work?
Do you agree with Kim Jong Il's censorship of the internet?

 

It's not because of the person that is disagreeing. It is because of whatever follows. Some things that have been said in this thread can be considered as hateful. That is why it should be closed.

If you happen to have a disagreement with someone, you could take it somewhere a little more private so everyone doesn't chip in their own jibe. (I'm not saying what you are agrueing is jibe at all.)

 

Lol my comment was just a joke, I didn't take her seriously. I only said that because she posted something belittling on another forum towards me. Onaria, maybe you should ease up. Maia probably feels silly for what she's done, just leave it at that and give her space.

Bombarding her with all the logic in the world won't change her views, and why should she change her views? Because its anti-human? Alchohol is anti human, yet I'll bet you don't complain to anyone about that when they offer you some. Or perhaps you drink it yourself. You can say you're critisizing her work and use a lot of clever arguments, but the fact is your personal feelings are involved. That makes it personal. And if you share no love for Maia, then why should she share love for you?

 

Ok people i'm absolutely fed up with all the flaming at the minute. Is it so difficult to play nice? Is this kind of behaviour really necessary? I don't think it is. I dislike having to close threads, or delete posts... I might be a moderator and it may be my job to moderate these forums but I prefer to not have to as that means that these forums are being used for what they were intended and not for childish arguments disguised as "debate".

Thread closed.