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  1. obsidian_cicatrix

    obsidian_cicatrix I ink, therefore I am. Contributor

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    @Lemex I'm trying really hard to not get hung up on little details... there is obviously quite a bit of artistic license going on. Whilst there is the suggestion of either hair or a laurel, I believe the artist has merely given a suggestion of something to break up the space. That's what I would have done.

    But now that you have drawn my attention to it... that's no laurel, or locks... keep in mind the building it's painted on... those are most definitely grapes.

    If I'm struggling for context, there is always Bacchus/Dionysus to consider too. Although it doesn't remotely conform to the standard images, (fresh faced and clean shaven, or somewhat more bestial) it could be that was the intent, and maybe the artist amalgamated several classical images to come up with this one, his own interpretation of Bacchus. Might explain why the whole piece looks so darn familiar.

    @thirdwind... yes, Antisthenes is a good guess too. :)
     
  2. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    Sure thing. I could not see they were grapes, I am on my phone. :p I don't know who it is, sorry.
     
  3. obsidian_cicatrix

    obsidian_cicatrix I ink, therefore I am. Contributor

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    lol.. no worries... I just thought if anyone would know, you might. :D
     
  4. Link the Writer

    Link the Writer Flipping Out For A Good Story. Contributor

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    Obi-Wan: That boy was our last hope.

    Yoda: <lowers head> Yes. No other exists, there are.

    Obi-Wan: By the way, we've got to work on your grammar. You make no sense at all.

    Yoda: Shut up, you will.
     
  5. Lewdog

    Lewdog Come ova here and give me kisses! Supporter Contributor

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    What about Odin? There are a lot of gangs out there that do graffiti that follow Odin-ism.

    Edit: Never mind the hair in the beard isn't right.
     
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    minstrel Leader of the Insquirrelgency Supporter Contributor

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    What does "take a butchers" mean? I understand what you want, but that's one of those expressions we don't use around here. :confused:
     
  7. Lewdog

    Lewdog Come ova here and give me kisses! Supporter Contributor

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    Yes, in the U.S. we would say, "Take a stab" or "Take a shot," but then again we are more violent than the rest of the world and it comes out in our vernacular.
     
  8. obsidian_cicatrix

    obsidian_cicatrix I ink, therefore I am. Contributor

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    It's Cockney rhyming slang. Butcher's hook - Take a look.
     
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    GingerCoffee Web Surfer Girl Contributor

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    How do you know that it is anyone? Could just be a greek or Roman bust of an unknown.

    Antisthenes

    What building is it on? Is Jak the artist's name or J A K?
     
  10. obsidian_cicatrix

    obsidian_cicatrix I ink, therefore I am. Contributor

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    @GingerCoffee

    Oh, you beaut... lol. Just as in so many things, sometimes you need to be asked the right question.

    I'm laughing now and viewing the pic on a 32"... it's not JAK, it's JMK. Cue some Googling.

    Jonny McKerr has a Facebook page. I'll ask him... surely he's bound to know seeing he painted it. ;) I forget some times just how easy it is to connect with people. ;)
     
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    GingerCoffee Web Surfer Girl Contributor

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    Web says he's into Greek mythology and painting classical Greek sculptures. I'm going to bet on Zeus or Poseidon. Or maybe Neptune if Greek is not the only sculptures he likes.
     
  12. obsidian_cicatrix

    obsidian_cicatrix I ink, therefore I am. Contributor

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    @GingerCoffee He has loads of pics on his Facebook page, but he hasn't updated since February. I really like his work. He paints in derelict buildings and in and on barns. Really quite unexpected places. If nothing else my initial question has steered me towards an artist whose work I appreciate... well worth the frustration of not knowing.
     
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    Cogito Former Mod, Retired Supporter Contributor

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    The Zig-Zag man.
     
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  14. obsidian_cicatrix

    obsidian_cicatrix I ink, therefore I am. Contributor

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    Gotta love the internet.

    I emailed the artist this morning and have just received a FB message from him:

    Hi t.c. The piece is inspired by a classical bust of Bacchus- the god of wine and partying, thought it was apt for the wall of a wine merchants. Hope this is helpful and thank you for your interest.

    Jonny


    Now I can let it go. *Breathes sigh of relief*
     
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    thirdwind Member Contest Administrator Reviewer Contributor

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    Interesting that most busts of Bacchus depict him without a beard.
     
  16. obsidian_cicatrix

    obsidian_cicatrix I ink, therefore I am. Contributor

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    @thirdwind Very true... I think I mentioned up-thread that you either see him young and clean shaven or older and more bestial... you'd be almost expecting him to have cloven hooves. I'd thought Bacchus only because of the wine angle, but I really don't remember seeing a depiction quite like that, although from the start the image seemed familiar to me.

    Perhaps we are just talking a serious amount of artistic license.
     
  17. Lewdog

    Lewdog Come ova here and give me kisses! Supporter Contributor

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    That picture doesn't look like boobs at all. I don't think he was really looking at a bust when he made it.
     
  18. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    That's just what I was thinking.

    I am surprised, I always imagined Bacchus/Dionysus as a young God to keep with his wine and positive-hedonism - to my mind he is like Pan. But, I'll happily admit I'm mostly familiar with the cultural side of Bacchus/Dionysus; artist renditions of him I'm not so familiar with outside of the Bucolic/Eclogue ideal.

    I've seen many paintings of him, but it is always in this Eclogue thread.
     

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