Is everyone writing fantasy?

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  1. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Senior Member

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    Cause he doesn't need magic or mutations to be who he is, right?
     
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    Exzalia Banned Contributor

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    I think it's because he often does things no human being could possibly do with little to no explanation as to how he does it. :p

    Like survive a hit from a being like superman.
     
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    It's cause of that armour he has. If you saw, "batman begins" he has really light but really strong armour.
     
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    Its not cause of the armor.

    Everytime Superman has ever hit Batman, Superman was holding back immensely.

    and its even been shown Superman has been able to shatter multiple bones in Batman's body when even a little serious.

    As in Batman getting all his ribs shattered and coughing up blood and that was from a weak hit.

    Superman is an expert and holding back
     
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    Exzalia Banned Contributor

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    hehe, ya but....superman can lift black holes (another impossibility)

    do you know how much a black hole weighs?

    a hit from any being even a fraction of superman strength should reduce batman to literal coal XD

    but is doesn't, because it's more fantasy then anything. Which is fine, nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is.
     
  6. TheApprentice

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    Well I guess you guys must be right. I don't read comics really, not marvel or dc at least. Some Walking dead though, which is why I don't watch it on Tv.
     
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    Superman can't lift black holes.

    Wrong character.....I think

    Your either thinking of Kal Kent (which is is Superman 1million) or the terribly written Silver Age Superman (which is 50s-60s Superman)

    Which in a way both are still a Superman

    But Superman in mainstream comics from 80s-2011

    Has never lifted a black hole in his hand as far as I know.

    He did destroy a moon and pull a planet (Had help though)and survive getting crushed between two planets.

    annnd then the most recent Superman (New 52) held up a planet as part of a science experiment test.
     
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    I think Galactus can lift black holes.
     
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    point is he is absurdly strong nothing should take even a sneeze from superman.
     
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    Well.....wait

    What about the characters as strong and stronger then him? :p

    I mean Batman shouldn't be able to.

    But there are a lot of people who can equal him and beat him
     
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    Yes....yes he could.

    Never seen him do it but its Galactus sooo yeah.

    He's cosmic being
     
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    What about Thor? And Wolverine? I know wolverine would suffer injury, but he would get right back up.
     
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    You mean against Superman?
     
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    Yup.
     
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    thor good he's pretty much as strong as supe

    wolverine? nope he's gone.

    supe can tow planets son, unless wolverine can take being punched by a planet he's gone.
     
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    Wolverine would be decimated but would just regenerate. There is no killing Wolverine.
     
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    ehh not so sure about that.

    what if he's paste?


    there's a limit to regen my friend grow back an arm sure, grow back from being reduced to a stain on supermans fist not happening.

    But ahhh we are getting off topic!
     
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    There is nothing Wolverine can do to even hurt Superman.

    Total different weight class.

    Wolverine has the healing factor, admantium and super senses.

    But he's still a street leveler.

    Probably one of the more powerful street levels hence why he has been able to defeat the likes of Captain America, Deadpool etc

    But against a serious someone more metahuman (like above that street limit) Wolverine almost always loses.

    The best example of that is everytime Spider-Man and Wolverine fight.

    It almost always ends in Spider-Man's favor because he has more power, better physical attributes and more versatile powers.

    You can kill Wolverine....its just hard.

    But just because he's hard to kill doesn't mean he can't be beaten.

    Hulk knocked him out (multiple times)

    Spider-Man has knocked him out, stuck him with webs so much he couldn't cut free, smashed his head through concrete to knock him out and nearly broke his neck.
     
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    And yes we are

    But I always get caught up in comic talk

    Hard not to when it starts XD

    But yeah back to the main topic
     
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    In one comic I read he gets eaten by a giant hulk creature but regenerates and cuts himself out of the stomach.
     
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    Anyways, right, don't want to be off topic.
     
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    The Silver Surfer and Galactus are about the two most unstoppable comic characters out there. Galactus created Silver Surfer and is basically a god. He knows everyone's weaknesses and can use them against them. So....
     
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    Right back to main topic


    Fantasy RULES!

    end of discussion!
     
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    I am a total Superman fan so I will say this. Superman's feats of strength and power, historically at least, out strip any other superhero character in Marvel and DC, with the exceptions being cosmic characters. Even then, for not being cosmic or magical himself (until DC 1Million), he's still given some cosmic characters a good run.

    That said, Thor would probably give Supes a good run because he is, next to Hulk, the strongest Marvel hero and he has many more years of fighting experience, and he's so freakin' tough. I hate to admit it, but Thor and Hulk stand pretty decent chances fighting Supes, especially in current continuity. Wolverine on the other hand... Unless his body is destroyed, he'd heal up. But he'd take beating after beating if he really was dumb enough to fight someone like Superman. He can't hurt him.

    This, sadly, is why so many people hate on superman. He hs always been the quintessential superhero. The strongest ever, the man who always wins in the end. That makes for a boring character these days, which has been a key motivator in many rewrites. Sadly, you can't please everybody, and with every incarnation, someone is upset that it's not the real, ideal Superman or that it's a too powerful incarnation.

    Anyway, what's important here is that, Superheroes usually appear in comics, which is why they don't have a genre of their own per se. However, you could search for superhero fiction and it would appear as a genre or sub genre. They usually appear in sci-fi, sci-fi fantasy, urban fantasy--typically combinations of those. Soft Sci-fi is another categorical classification, but the simplest breakdown would be Superhero Fiction.
     
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