Is it sexist

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  1. Earp

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    Well, there's not really any such thing as a 'sexist' word.

    I think we forget sometimes that we're artists, and if you're not offending somebody, you probably aren't doing it right. I'd say leave it to the PC Warriors to argue about how many angels can dance on the head of this particular pin. Tell your story, -isms and -ists be damned.
     
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    That holds true pretty much everywhere.
     
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    Everything is 'sexist' nowadays. Everything is some kind of phobe, ist, ism. There's no avoiding it, someone is going to be ticked off somewhere.
    The only way to get around the undecided (the ones that will join in with the kooks) is to own the descriptions. Don't make escuses like she was pretty curvy for a fat person, or she made everyone else look like a tent pole. Just describe her in pleasant, clear imagery that isn't apologizing for how she looks or how the person assesses her.
    You're description looks great to me.

    Curvaceous is not in itself a sexist word. Bootylicious maybe. Still it's all about the execution of the surrounding words and the tone that slants how that word is to be taken.
     
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    I guess it would depend on the context and genre. If its a textbook for gross anatomy, then yeah, prolly not a good idea. If it's in a work of general fiction then have at it. There's a million other ways to describe obesity if you feel the subject matter may be too sensitive for the intended reader, like a children's books, etc..
     
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    I don't think it's necessarily sexists. It depends on how you use it. If the POV character looked in the mirror and was pleased the dress complimented her curvaceous figure, then it's fine.

    I would just be careful to not use it as a standard for a good looking woman. A man enters a bar hoping to find a curvaceous woman.

    You can also use "Shapely."
     
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    In my opinion the word "sexist" is like the word "fair." Ask a lot of people to define it, and you'll get a lot of very different answers, which all lean in a particular direction depending on which side of the table you sit.

    I might be offended if the word "curvaceous" was used as a cheap adjective just to throw a word into a sentence, but use of the word itself? Are we really having this discussion?

    I suppose the computer Gods came up with spell check and auto correct. They'll probably come out soon with an approved word and phrasing filter.
     
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    I'm a straight and cis-gendered man, so my perspective on what most women would consider sexist or offensive is admittedly limited. But, IMO, it depends on the context the word appears in. If you're writing a moment in which the POV character admires the woman's beauty, then vocabulary like "curvaceous" makes sense. You're supposed to be describing how attractive they find her. I believe the problem comes in when you emphasize her sexual attractiveness in contexts where it shouldn't be relevant, in which case it would come across treating her like a one-dimensional sex object. There's a time and place for everything.
     
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    From Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Curvaceous: having or suggesting the curves of a well-proportioned feminine figure.

    In sewing and altering patterns, people typically refer to fuller body types as "curvy." We've all become so hypersensitive to any words or expressions that might not be completely neutral that we're in danger of taking the flavor out of the language.What's wrong with implying the lady's appearance has a sexy vibe? If her appearance is contrary to her personality or inclinations, that's one more layer to what makes her interesting.

    Ahem. So a woman with extra pounds, thick in the middle, or padded by the years is sexually unattractive? Tsk, Louanne. :rolleyes: ;)
     
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    Remember, the narrator is not the author. If he/she sees a character as rocking it, then it needs to be said. If the narrator is a bit more clinical then the description is dialed back. Even that can be funny its way . . . A reader is smart enough to know what went unsaid.

    Establish who your narrator is and then let them speak. That's my advice.
     
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    Pretty much Everything can be sexist or not it depends on the context

    curvaceous barmaid wanted, big boobs a plus…

    very different from

    she was happy with her curvaceous body
     

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