It Began In A Tavern (Lore Discussion Thread)

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    I think the entire table should be possible. But the crossed out elements can only be used by very advanced users like Sages (so, non-players). The reason I'm suggesting this is to keep possibilities open but with a leash.

    Uranium is bad news. Its radioactive and releases energy constantly. It might be overpowered... especially when it comes to nuclear explosions.

    If we go with the idea of my previous message, I further suggest that uranium creation to be a highly advanced technique not accessible to player characters.
     
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    Agreed. So, the sages are NPCs who can sometimes make helpful items and tech for players. Sounds good. Maybe there is 1 sage and you to do him a huge favor to get what you want. That way, we don't have several runs to the walmart of Sages.
     
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    Well, from what I know, throughout history, a tavern or coffee shop was a place for all classes (mostly men) to gather. I get this reference from here:



    Also, another possibility, there ISN'T a war, but overuse of magic is corrupting people (think like effects from the elements used) and science wants to find a better way to use the elements that don't hurt people.
     
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    Sounds good to me.

    Interesting. If the scientists and magic users are at war though, wouldn't this technically be a civil war?

    Greece entered civil war shortly after WW2. Even before the civil war, there was tension between the left and right. A lot of tension.

    The two groups at civil war could simply not co-exist and brothers killed brothers (literally). It was very bloody... which is why I'm having a hard time imagining people at war co-existing in a tavern.

    But I guess our roleplay takes place in a different era altogether. The civil war was fairly recently...

    What do you think @Louanne Learning ?
     
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    Sorry about the Civil War in Greece. Civil wars are never fun. Anyway, in case you missed it, I added another idea:

    Also, another possibility, there ISN'T a war, but overuse of magic is corrupting people (think like effects from the elements used) and science wants to find a better way to use the elements that don't hurt people.
     
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    I didn't remember reading this anywhere and went back to see where I missed it. Then I realized it's right underneath the video, lol. My slow brain interpreted the video as end of message.

    But anyway... that does sound pretty good to me... unless anyone else has any other ideas of course.
     
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    I like this idea better than a war. I like the idea of science and magic working together towards a shared goal.
     
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    Yes, it's pretty good. Unless anyone has any objections, we should probably go with it.
     
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    Oh, I added it in an edit. So you must have read the post before I updated it. Oops. Next time, I will just make another post. I do like this idea better, so @Delusionist, are you also on board with this idea?
     
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    Do you all think Magic is gatekept by the academia, or could Bossman use basic earth magic to fix the hole in his tavern? If needed, he can hire someone.
     
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    I suppose this is a question for Louanne since this is technically her character.

    Originally, I did say that only those who are born with Ether can use it. I imagine this means that those who are fortunate enough to be born with the natural ability to produce it also end up pursuing the journey to master magic.

    But the world isn't black and white, right? Maybe Bossman was born with it but never pursued magic for whatever reason.

    Whatever the case, this is actually a pretty significant question about the character, so the one who made it should answer it. I think it's only right anyway...

    I think Louanne's entry established this, yes. The authoritarian government imposes restrictions on magic, which sounds like a very authoritarian thing to do! It makes a lot of sense.

    So who can actually use it? I imagine that only those who have a license can legally use it. So, basically, people who made propaganda-filled oaths and swore to use it for the "greater good". Stuff like that. I.e. people who's ideology is compatible with the magic gatekeepers.

    That's what I propose anyway, I'd like everyone else's opinion too!
     
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    Thanks for your thoughts. I agree, the government should be the one to license mages. Anyway, I'm gonna have Bossman hire a mage to fix the floor and windows.
     
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    No, Bossman and his family have no magic. They belong to the Poet class.
     
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    Yes, that sounds good to me
     
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    There was talk about what sort of state governs the country but I don't believe we ever actually decided. I'm sure it was established that the scientists work together with the mages. There is a big academia that does research and experiments... including the lab rats. Presumably, the mages (like those platinum mages, who are officials) take any misbehaving people to academia where they are 'processed'.

    So it's a union between academia and state. Can we decide on a name for that? For example, the government of North Korea is called DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea).

    It's just for some world building purposes. I have some very interesting stuff in mind.
     
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    Yes! What ideas do you have in mind? I was thinking it was kinda a monarchy that didn’t really have influence. Or more like oligarchy.
     
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    I'm actually not all that knowledgeable about these topics. Whatever fits the kind of setup we have right now will work, I imagine. It's just that the world outside the tavern is quite blurry right now. Who rules everything? Who is at the top? And how is everything ruled?

    It doesn't have to be complex, but it has to be something.
     
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    Agreed.

    What if there is the High Mage and High Scientist. They are co-rulers and each run their branch well. But they don't always get along as they are separate governing bodies like parliament vs. the PM. They don't always get along, but have to work together.

    So, the upper-class is fractured more than ever as scientists are trying to gain the edge on mages. But also, mages are suffering from the effects of using magic.
     
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    That sounds good to me. But it doesn't sound like they can rule the country (only their branches). I think if we add a king or queen into the mix, we have a monarchy in place. The High Mage and High Scientist report to the royal leaders.

    The royals decide on country laws and military matters. They also appoint the High Mage and High Scientist as leaders for their branches. So, the royals are in ultimate control but the High Mage and High Scientist still have high influence because they are a rank below the royal leader.

    This is a monarchy and it should work. The King/Queen (or both?) is basically the most powerful mage in the country. There must be some reason they rule!

    I'm not too knowledgeable as I said so I don't know if both King and Queen can rule at the same time.

    Let me know what you think :)
     
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    I agree these are branches of government, not a system. But I had an idea last night after seeing this. What if the ruler is 'The Sage'? The one who knows both Science and Magic? Like in the manga, Witch Hat Atelier, science people can't learn magic and vice versa. But the Sage, the ruler of the land, can. Also, it brings in the Sage character that can give us special tech and makes it a difficult quest for the characters to obtain.
     
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    We can go with that. What kind of government is this technically classified to be though?
     
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    Honestly, I don't know. I can't think of any real-life examples.
     
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    If we do introduce a character as the King or Queen, we should make them have a connection to an already existing character.
     
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    We can still come up with a name for it. It'll be good enough.

    Good idea, but who could have a connection?
     
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    Yeah, we should come up with a name. I am honestly not good at coming up with fantasy names, so feel free to give ideas.

    And um, I donno. Maybe we'll meet this character later?
     
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