It Began In A Tavern (OOC Discussion)

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  1. Gravy

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    Your post is awesome! I enjoyed reading it and am super happy to be doing this with you and everyone. Your pov is great and not head hopping. :
     
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    I'm relieved to hear that it's good enough. I did worry about this a little bit.

    I'm happy too. All I've been writing these past few months is soulless computer code, so it's really nice to write creatively like this.

    I'm looking forward to Louanne's own post. I have a feeling it'll be pretty good.
     
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    Of course your post is 'good enough'. It always will be- this is casual writing.

    Oh, I am sorry about the coding- that does suck. What have you been making, if I may ask?

    Same! I am excited to see what Louanne writes. Everyone's has been good so far. :)
     
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    @Gravy

    I had made my character, Katara, together with her mother and grandfather, the proprietors of the Tavern. I guess I need to change this. I'll try to get to it today, but I am just leaving now for the airport in Toronto to pick up my niece who comes home from Hawaii today!
     
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    I noticed this as well but I thought I was misunderstanding something because you didn't mention it, so I didn't either.

    I actually liked the idea of Katara and her family owning the tavern. It seems like an important place to the story (it literally has it in the title) so the tavern having a connection to one of our characters feels rather appropriate. It opens possibilities.

    What we can do is maybe change The Barkeep into an employee rather than an owner.

    I suppose @Gravy will have to input on this.
     
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    Thank you @ps102 - I wasn't going to say anything, but then I realized I should then change my character profile.

    I'm just on my way out. I'll wait for @Gravy to weigh in on this.

    Either way is good for me. No problem changing my character profile.
     
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    No rush! Enjoy your time with your niece.

    As for Katara and her family, I agree with @ps102. The Barkeep could just be an employee who works there part-time and convinced Katara's family to hire Ravenna. Who is his 'niece'. I feel like going back and changing things could get a bit messy. But on the other hand, we are only two posts in. So it could go either way. But having Katara's family own the tavern works great and is a very nice tie to the story setting.

    Also, sorry for missing this information in the first place. I look forward to your post and have a safe drive to the airport.
     
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    That works and Louanne doesn't have to change her character, so I vote that we go with this. I don't think I made any references to who The Barkeep is on my post so I think only your post needs some minor editing. However, if changes are required on mine too, I'd be happy to do it. I'm no stranger to editing.

    So, I think that Louanne should go on to write as normal and the edit to the first post can be made later.
     
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    Yes, I can easily edit and would be happy to do that as well. Because you're right. There does need to be some and it's best to catch it early.

    Yes, once Louanne posts, it will be easier to know what changes to make. And I am glad she caught this error, because I swear I read everything. But I think I was having a dyslexic line-skipping moment or something. Because it happens to me more than I would like.
     
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    Okay, works for me. Now we wait for her to make a post and we can go from there.

    But I do think this was a good incident in a way. It happened early (so few consequences) and now I know that I should probably say something next time I notice something like this. Communication is good :)
     
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    100% agree! I will be very careful to keep continuity and details in mind going forward. Communication IS key and I am glad we are able to gently fix things.
     
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    That's an interesting article. I've always wondered how TikTok and other such platforms are influencing the social perception of these disorders.

    It's an online article from a clinic so it has that authority behind it. That said, the DSM is probably a really good book to reference for mental disorders. It's basically the most popular diagnostic manual in the world and its used by professionals for diagnosis, so I'd say, it has some accurate material.

    Or... does it? Honestly, it wasn't until the 5th edition that it adjusted diagnostic criteria to be inclusive of adults and not just children. That's remarkably late. But IMO, that's not exclusively the DSM's fault. There were many factors involved in that general perception.

    So, yeah, if you want accuracy, get the 5th DSM. I actually have a copy of it because I'm a university student. I did research on ADHD and HCI.
     
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    Social media is a mixed bag in regard to mental disorders.

    Anyway, yeah, I have a digital copy and will dig up that info for myself. I don't know HOW we can get Louanne on the same literal page, but we can make it work. Anyway, I have 4-TR on paper and it's crazy to hear adults weren't included. I honestly use 4 too much, but I can't help I have a love for paper books. I will pull up my 5th ed and review it. I really think it's underrated writer's tool and it's a shame it's so expensive.
     
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    I think that not everyone is aware of its existence. I only learned of it because my own diagnostic letter for ASD mentioned it.

    I recommend using the 5th mainly. The 4th is rarely used now because it has many inaccuracies. I remember reading that it is preferred in some cases though.

    This stuff is not my trade. I'm in computer science. It's just that people in computer science (at least some) do research on these topics to try and make the digital world more comfortable for people with conditions like ADHD.

    This should be made easy not just for Louanne, but for any other people who are interested in participating as well. They shouldn't have to read the DID section on the DSM to participate :)

    Is it possible that you can maybe place the final findings (like a conclusion) somewhere?
     
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    Again, I agree and yeah, I want to switch over to 5, but don't have a paper copy- so it makes it harder. I don't read digital materials well. And I agree. It should be made easy for everyone who joins. Could we work together to create a 'cheat sheet' that breaks down the psychology lingo and the basic concept?
     
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    @ps102 Also, I messaged the BIG mods, because I want to make sure I'm not breaking rules if I post a 'cheat sheet' about this thing. I was thinking of explaining the 'lingo' and making it a less confusing sheet. Also, I didn't know DSM 5 has a -TR version already. I don't have that one!
     
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    Hello! I had a wonderful afternoon with my niece and a young lady who I consider my niece (she was my husband's PSW when he was in the final stages of his MS and has become a family member). The two of them have become great friends - they are around the same age - and nothing could make me happier!

    I will get to my entry in the morning. I am excited to get it started!
     
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    I am so glad to hear you had a wonderful time! That's so sweet. (Sorry about your husband.) I love families that grow and I am so glad they are friends.

    No worries about your entry, but I am excited as well. I think this is a great format for everyone involved.
     
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    Thank you. I like to think he is still with me. I certainly feel inspired by him every day!
     
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    I'd be surprised if it didn't. It's been long enough since the original DS5 was released.

    By the way, I love physical books too, but space is a bit of a problem with them.

    Hmmm... so you're saying that you want to take the DSM definitions and break them down into something really simple and digestible so everyone can reference it whenever its their turn to play your character? I think that's a really good idea.

    I think DID should be okay to 'sum' up. However, the mods will be the ones to confirm, of course.

    Very glad you had a good day. I'm looking forward to your entry!
     
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    I don't know what you believe, but I am sure he is happy to help you create wonderful stories.
     
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    Yeah, it has been! I need to figure out how get my hands on the TR Version. I guess to the library I go?

    Yes, exactly that. Something simple everyone can understand easily (and write easily) so characterization is semi-consistent. Thanks so much, I am glad you like the idea.

    I think it will, but I messaged the big mods just in case. I sent 1 message to Homer, but may contact the others later. I just didn't want to spam everyone. All the mods around here are very friendly and kind.
     
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    I looked at the TR version and DID's diagonistic criteria, plus various descriptions are in pages 330 to 337. That is a lot of material but it appears to be broad in coverage and much of it might not apply to your character. I guess the first step is selecting what applies and then summarizing that in a short and digestible format.
     
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    Yeah, I think picking the story relevant pieces and maybe it would work best to just use those. Then cite the DSM5 as the source. Like I would a paper.

    Also! Just got a messaged back for Homer and got an 'okay' to do the cheatsheet. So, I am thinking of breaking it down to under 1000 words? Just basics about what the condition is, switching, memory loss, etc. Anything else to add?
     
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