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    Mitchell garcia New Member

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    Late 1800s early 1900s ship propulsion

    Discussion in 'Research' started by Mitchell garcia, Nov 11, 2018.

    What was the Higgins boat equivalent with any of the powers prior to the great war? I'm trying to use tech from the era, but there doesn't seem to be much easily accessible material about it. Anyone know any specifics on how they worked, specs, speed, different models, etc?
     
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    You're asking for what kind of landing craft they used back then? Rowing boats I think. At Gallipoli for example. The inadequacies of those craft and the development of machine guns and so on is what led to the development of the Higgins boat for WW2.
     
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    That's what I thought but it was a bastards to find what the predecessor to the Higgins boat were. Plus I was shmammered at the time I posted this. Thank you for the help!
     
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    @Mitchell garcia



    This might help you. I play an MMO game called Naval Action. Its set in the age of sail however the forum covers a lot of ship history with knowledge buffs. Take a look...

    http://www.navalaction.com/

    https://forum.game-labs.net/

    Look through the History and Shipyard sections first.



    Research...

    Higgins Boat is a troop landing craft. The Age of Sail ran from 1571-1862. At the Hampton Road battle saw steam powered ironclads first used. So, need to research Ship propulsion history...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hampton_Roads

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_propulsion

    Excluding Jolly boats to transfer ship to shore. We want to look more at assault troop landing craft types.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_boat

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Landing_craft

    For that I’d look at the history of the Royal Marines. Also take note of the Senior rank ceiling against Army Promotions. Royal Marines usually were part of a large ship of the lines crew compliment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Royal_Marines

    I’d look at the battles involving assault landings like the one below in 1761.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Belle_Île

    Then the gunboat history. These are modified small shallow draft brigs very fast with one front mounted cannon. These boats under sail and oar would land Royal Marine attack forces. Even through the age of Steam, gunboats still kept their sails and oars.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunboat

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_warfare



    Think the reason you’ll find trouble is the Royal Marines were attached to an individual Line Ship not independent. For a specific task they’d rig-out a fast Brig for that assault landing. By 1800 onward saw Brig diversification into Mortar Brigs that bombard shore batteries, Gunboat assault landing ships and so on.

    Hope this helps

    Norfolk
     
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    I mis-read “Late 1800s early 1900s ship propulsion”. I’ve gone way back apologies...

    Start here...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_propulsion

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_warfare



    Find the name of an individual ship via battle reports. Then trace her class and then construction plans should follow. Sites like these can help

    http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/R/R.html



    Norfolk
     
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    If you’re interested in the navy in this period then I’d HIGHLY recommend reading anything about Thomas Cochrane you can get your hands on.

    That will give you some account of the switch from sail power to coal.
     

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