Obama Wins!

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  1. Banzai

    Banzai One-time Mod, but on the road to recovery Contributor

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    Godwin rule only applies when the reference has bugger all to do with the discussion. To my mind, it's very relevant.
     
  2. Mercury

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    Congratulations to American Democrats - what a truly historic moment. We shouldn't make race too much of an issue, the fact is the American people wanted out the Bush administration that had caused the worldwide slump through encouraging rampant and irresponsible growth. They saw through race to vote in the right man with the right policies.

    But youngsters growing up around the world, not just in America, over the next four years, will see that the most powerful man on the planet is an African-American. That's going to have a profound effect and I'm delighted.

    Also..wow, that Palin woman didn't do McCain any favours. What a liability she turned out to be. :D
     
  3. Eoz Eanj

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    im glad obama won

    hell, its not as if things could have gotten any worse to begin with

    lol.
     
  4. Banzai

    Banzai One-time Mod, but on the road to recovery Contributor

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    You realise that's up there "so far so good" in the phrases that tempt fate?
     
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    I was transfixed as I listened to Obama's speech. I got almost no sleep last night 'cause I had to get up early this morning, but I don't care. History happening before my eyes! I could not miss that. Obama get's every iota of good will I can send to him for success in his presidency and for a future of government in America that is more representative of not only who we are as Americans, but what we want as Americans.

    That's the truth!
     
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    Personally I'm not happy top see Obama take the presidential seat. I would have prefared McCain.

    I wait with baited breath to see what Obama does now.
     
  7. Banzai

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    I disagree. I think both candidates were equally undesirable. But on the bright side, no potential-president Palin.
     
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    California is an "at-will" employment state. I have the right to lay off anyone if I feel I cannot afford them. The election of our first Marxist-leaning president is sufficient cause for me to tighten my business expenses. Terminating those emplyees will leave my company lean and highly productive. It is the right business decision and my business attorney has approved the action. By the way, if you think Bush was bad for our economy (and he was), you're now going to see what an incompetent/inexperienced "social organizer" does when he "leads" a nation. I'm selling assets, firing employees, consolidating my business operations and terminating my rather substantial annual charitable support in preparation for the next Great Depression, courtesy of Obama-nomics.

    As far as Obama's political history, he has a well documented affiliation with people who espouse Marxist views and who hold the USA in great contempt. He is NOT a liberal...Hillary is a liberal (and I voted for her in the primaries). Obama is an extremist harboring every extreme left wing ideal, and I am a lifetime Democrat who is scared to death of this Marxist idiot! Hopefully, he will do something bad enough to get himself impeached as soon as possible so we can minimize the damage he does to our country.
     
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    That I'll agree on.
     
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    Now that's what also concerns me. He juast doesn't seem the right person to lead a country. Though I could be wrong. But I can't help but get that nagging feeling this is the wrong choice of president. However it could be a while before he does something bad enough to be impeached. We'll see.
     
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    Nah

    I'm just cynical
     
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    The world is going to end. Obama won.

    *flies to Austrailia*
     
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    Sweet Jesus... I hope a real socialist never comes to the White House. I hate to imagine how over the top your panicking would be then...
     
  14. Eoz Eanj

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    It's no better here

    stay where you are
     
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    Oh. Well, I've give him a chance. But I've got my ticket ready, just in case.
     
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    I guess it just wouldn't be an election without everyone looking to see when the sky is going to fall....
     
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    Canada hasn't collapsed over not having to pay for major surgeries and affordable post-secondary education. And as I recall, we're handling the current economic problems much better than Americans right now.
     
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    Oh, and firing people because of their political beliefs? That certainly doesn't sound like the way Communist goverments often treat people who openly disagree with them.
     
  19. Cheeno

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    A socialist in the Whitehouse? Excellent! Justice at last!!:D
     
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    I totally dislike Obama and his views I am glad I am not an American because I think the road ahead will be full of change. I only hope that change is to better the poorer and correct the mistakes done. But somehow I doubt it.

    But that said it’s my opinion and the American people in the majority have voted this man into the presidency so let us hope they haven't voted in vein.
     
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    I know he was the favourite but I still wasn't sure that it was going to happen. Still despite being happy my pessimistic side is reminded of when Blair came to power and everyone was all hopeful about change, and things getting better, all that got better was the spin.

    On another note it's possible to have some elements of socialism into a capitalist system to create some degree of fairness, and to try and balance things out to a degree, without this having an effect on the competitiveness of capitalism or without this leading down a road to an authoritarian ussr regime :S - however obama's not a socialist and even if he wanted to go all marxist on america, my understanding of american politics with its spread of power and checks and balances would say he wouldn't have the power to. (Also Marxs wanted the state to have less power and to eventually to disappear giving power to the people, so why would he want to? he'd be out of a job :p ).
     
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    Well put.

    But why is all the sense on this matter coming from the wrong side of the Atlantic? :confused:
     
  24. Cogito

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    I am not all that pleased that Obama won the election. I don't dislike him personally, and I do believe he wants to try to close the partisan gap, but he is still very much a Democrat. As a Democrat, he does promote the redistribution of wealth from those who have more to those who have less. In theory, that sounds attractive to Joe Ordinary (that's Joe the Plumber's brother in law), but it is whar NaCl refers to as socialism. The flaw in that theory is that most of those in the income bracket that the Democrats' approach punishes are those who have worked hard to build up their businesses, and who have been successful.

    Well, guess who also pays the salaries of all the Joe Ordinaries. Many of these businesses will lose profitability, and the employees will lose their jobs. But at least their taxes will be less.

    I don't agree with all of McCain's ideas, but for the most part I do. But I also realized thet tha American people perceive the Republican party and its ideals as poisoned, due to the fact that an unpopular Republican President was in office during these times.

    However, the Republicans in Congress are not the only ones with pork barrels and cash flowing from special interests. What has happened with Wall Street recently is not the sole blame of any one person or party. The system is flawed and has been for far longer than eight years.

    I worry about the consequences if the remaining uncounted votes give the Senate Democrats the full majority that tips the balance of power to silence the Republican presence for the next couple of years, especially with a Democrat holding the only power to veto.

    To President Elect Obama's credit, he speaks well. His acceptance speech was eloquent, and he spoke of unity. And I am glad to see the coilor barrier broken at last. However, I am not optimistic that he holds the answers that will best serve this country and its people.

    And I especially fear the Democrat-dominated Congress. But I knew it was coming.

    Next election: Hari Seldon for President.

    (And NaCl - I would really hate to see you terminate employees for voting their conscience.)
     
  25. lordofhats

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    I don't think he's a socialist. I think he's really left-ward liberal but you, know, that's not an automatic bad thing and it certainly doesn't make him socialist. I don't think there are any real socialists in the US political system. Most of the real socialists here are outside of the political system.

    America is overdue though, having skipped over the socialist craze the rest of the world experienced some fifty-sixty years back while we were fighting the "commies" and hippies... We're bound to run into it sooner or later as most nations run parallel lines in terms of general policy. I won't be surprised in the future if we experiment with some socialism. It'll just end up like it has in every other country that's tried it and we realize it doesn't work.

    Yep, and I'm checking the ground underneath me too :p. No spontanious volcanos are getting the jump on me!
     
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