Obama Wins!

Which makes him a Hypocrite.

 

Only if he was a marxist, which he isn't. Also this could turn into a big debate about socialism but I truely believe that socialist controls are needed to control a widening disparity in wealth which capitalism causes. European countries have had socialist things such as health care systems and education systems since at least the 40s, which have been beneficial to lots. Capitalism is good at creating wealth but it so very unevenly. One of the main problems i have is that multinational companies worth millions and billions pay their workers the least amount they can get away with. In developed countries because of the socialist 'minimum wage' and protection of the state, workers can get something which can hopefully buy them essentials, however in developing countries workers aren't protected from the negative side of capitalism and so are paid hardly anything. Sorry gone off topic slightly, but I just hate to see people see socialism as something bad when i think some elements of it in capitalism are good, and that socialism or capitalism as a pure from is a negative thing.

 

1. Obama started out early in his campaign attacking big business. Apparently Obama does not know that Big Businesses does not pay taxes. They simply raise their prices. And who is it that get the short end of the stick? That's right! The same ones Obama is claiming, he wants to help.

If you have a good job, now with all of the works; that is, health insurance, dental care, disability insurance, life insurance and pension you are doing well. But not for long. Not under the Obama Plan to attack Big Business so he can pay for all of his social programs. If you are working for a company like the one I described above, with all the works and that company get hit with higher taxes under the Obama Plan, will you be safe? I mean, just suppose the company call a meeting and say to you . . . Listen, over the years we have been able to provide for all of our employees a pension and welfare package. But now, under this new administration, with the increase in taxes, we are sad to have to report, that we are unable to deliver the same kinds of benefits as we once did. No thanks, to your President Barack Obama.

2. What about ten dollars a gallon for gasoline. Barack Obama does not want to drill for more oil. Obama is against it. Obama is against building more nuclear reactors. Nuclear power is important because it is much more environmentally sound compared to coal. If other countries can do it and store their waste safely, then we can do it. And we can do it better than them all combined! The French are recycling their nuke waste to the point it's safe. The solution? We need to drill here and drill now and pay less!

3. How about a President who gives the green light to the same-sex couples? Obama supports national civil unions giving same-sex couples the same safeguards and rights of marriage. Obama should know (if he is a Christian) that God ordained marriage and God also regulates marriage. Is Obama now trying to take God's role in regulating marriage? Who Is This Guy? What in the world is he teaching his children? What's Next? Pet Owners and their Pets seeking their rights to national civil unions, giving Pet Owners and their Pets the same safeguards and rights of marriage.

4. Obama is just the kind of President our enemies love. Obama said he will meet with our enemies, does this include Osama? Here is a Headline from Jihad Watch June 12, 2008; by Egyptian Journo: "Muslims love Obama because he will appease them." Fact: The United States has enemies. Fact: We have been told by those who are working day and night to protect us, the CIA, FBI and others; that we will get hit again. Retired Vice Admiral John Scott Redd, head of the National Counterterrorism Center, says, "We have very strong indicators that Al Qaeda is planning to attack the West."

In an interview at his headquarters near Washington, D.C., Redd told Newsweek's Mark Hosenball and Jeffrey Bartholet that the country is better prepared than ever to counter such threats. But he also believes another successful terror attack on the U.S. homeland is inevitable.

The question is do Barack Obama believe this or do he believe that whatever problem the Muslim world have against, can be solved by talking and with no pre-conditons set in place? Both cannot be right. Have we or have we not been attacked before? And what about our allies? Haven't they also been attacked? Is not Israel our ally and who is it that threatens to wipe them off the face of the earth? Yet Israel know that you don't begin to have a talk with your enemies unconditionally. Barack Obama biggest problem is poor judgment. Obama can sit in a congregation for many years and allow his family to hear hate messages. He just sits there and allow a man to disrespect God and God's word and lie about our nation.

And look how long it took for Obama to realize, that he needed to denounce his preacher's teachings, once everyone else found out what was going on, in the church he attended. All of those years he was a member and he just realized, while running for the highest office in the land, that his minister's teachings, did not reflect his views. Imagine that! This is not the kind of leader we need, to deal with those, who are our enemies. Why! It just takes to long for Obama to get it. If there is ever a clear and present threat, we do not want someone who cannot make a quick and sound judgment.

5. Then there is the case for "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION." What is wrong with that statement? Oh! The word ILLEGAL. I know, I know. Some don't like the term ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. They like the term "UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS". Some people don't like the term "HOMOSEXUAL" or "ADULTERY". They like the term "ALTERNATIVE LIFE STYLE". Why? To try to make it sound more appealing.

Making the point that "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION" ruins the American Economy is not hate speech. Saying I hate someone because they're hispanic is hate speech but Lou Dobbs did not say that. Not only that, Lou Dobbs wife is from Mexico. Therefore Obama again has a judgment problem. Obama has poor judgment.

They have been married 25 years and have two biracial children.. Furthermore, his wife mother and her father lives with them. What Dobbs says is, those who enter illegally demean the status of those who entered legally and cause widespread economic problems both in lower wages and in flooding the social safety net. That is not hateful, that is true. How can one have a case if they are ILLEGAL?

According to the nonpartisan Urban Institute, in 2002 there were 9.3 Undocumented Immigrants in the United States. What part of your social security will Obama grant to them before you, get to retire?

 

Obama is just the kind of President our enemies love. Obama said he will meet with our enemies, does this include Osama?

tehe surely that would be a good thing as the republicans haven't found him yet , anyway must go do work...

 

so i think McCain would of won if he would of had pennslyvania, but on the other hand i really hope that Obama doesn't get shot. But her is my opinoin on the whole thing, either way we voted for the vice preseidents. b/c Obama has already had a ton of threats three times he almost was shot, idk i jsut hope he doesn't screw America over. if so im moving to Austria

 

The popular vote was much closer than the electoral vote. I really think it's time to do away with the Electoral College. It's the only way every voting citizen will get an equal vote.

The outcome would not have changed, but it would be a lot clearer that the people don't support the victor as overwhelmingly as the electoral vote suggests.

 

Austria? Why Austria? Because it's full of raging neo-nazis?

I actually think that we should start a political party together... I agree entirely. Neither capitalism or socialism works perfectly alone, but the fact is everyone has been so scared off anything remotely socialist by all these Hollywood bull**** movies that portray it as the anti-christ. It's bizzare, it makes no sense, and it's counter-developmental.

 

I've spent the last few days wondering at the point of the electoral college. I know it's supposed to reflect votes according to the population of states, but surely an outright popular vote would do the same thing?

 

C'mon now, y'all. Let's give the guy a chance.

 

And that chance could be very fatal indeed.

 

Well i for one am i happy camper.

Sadly over the years seeing George Bush and his monek ystupidity, has pretty much made me not hate Americans, but lose a lot of respect (and im not ganna get into it, its not the point). But when i see obama, i see some hope. I see a man that can actually string a frigging sentence together. He wont solve much, but if he can install some hope to those that havent had if for so long, than so be it.

Im guessing there are going to be a lot of african american/ and even minories kids going to school wtih their heads held high.

Anyway, either way in a few months time we'll see how he goes.

 

Maybe in just tired, but what do you mean by that Raven?

 

"Give the guy a chance" is not a viable reason to elect a leader. "A chance" can go bad as many ways as it goes good. We don't give "chances" and never should. Not for something as serious as a presidency. Now, will Obama be bad? I don't know. I thought McCain would be better but that doesn't mean I think Obama will be bad. I'll wait and see how it turns out and complain when there's something to actually complain about. As it stands he hasn't done anything yet. I'll wait till he does.

Eh, I think Bush is more like an Orangutan. He's smart, but he just looks and acts so silly .

 

It's a bit of a leftover from earlier days when it would not have been feasible to really make a count of the popular vote in any sort of real time over such a vast area as the US. Technology did away with the reason for the electoral vote decades ago, and many citizens of the U.S. believe that it needs to be done away with.

 

There's more to it than that. The Electoral College was put in place as a buffer between the general populace, which the founding fathers felt could be full of ignorance, and the government. So the Electoral College would listen to the peoples' wishes, but at need could override them for the public good.

And there is plenty of ignorance in the general populace. But everyone should still get an equal vote nonetheless.

 

The electoral college question is easily fixed simply by doing away with the winner takes all rule. Rather states would regulate their electoral votes based on the precentage of their population that voted for a particular candidate. It would effectively keep the benefits of the college while doing away with some of the negatives.

 

Seems to me it's simpler yet to go straight to the popular vote.

The founding fathers were very enlightened for their time, but they still carried the taint of aristocracy.

 

I am very happy with the outcome of the election. Barack Obama's speech after he was elected was powerful and moving. I am glad he was honest with us and said it would be a long and hard road to fix our current situation. He was humble and respectful and seemed sincere. I am looking forward to the next four years (Starting Jan. 20) and hope some major changes are coming.

 

It never really matters whose name is on the plaque. Sure, during the election the Democrats talk democrat, and the Republicans talk republican, but in the end they always end up somewhere in the middle. Politicians are all the same, really. They distract you with little issues and scandals to make them seem worlds apart, but the differences are minor in the grand scheme of things.

 

We've not met eye to eye in the past, Emerald, but on this I must agree with you.

Where I come from political parties are significantly more polarized and a change of party can mean some truly sweeping changes.

 

Can't argue with that.

 

it's up to everybody in office... no one person can change the country's situation no matter who it is... i always look at the presidential thing as putting the lesser of 2 evils in the white house, but Obama can't do a damn thing by himself... he has to be backed now that he has been chosen to lead us...

 

So therefore George W. Bush doesn't deserve the hatred directed his way.

To an extent, I actually agree with this. He was President during difficult times, with 9/11 taking place in his first year. Everything he did during his Presidency seemed to make things worse, but none of us really know what the consequences would have been if he had taken other actions instead.

Certainly there were mistakes made. The intelligence reports of WMDs in Iraq appear to have been in error (and these reports did NOT all come from the US, by the way); and yet, many of the materials and components remain unaccounted for.

Anyway. the times and the situations are what they are, and who is to say with certainty that other choices would have turned out better?

But fair or not, the man at the top will be held accountable for any worsening situation, and will receive credit for enery improvement in conditions as well. There's no guarantee that any President has fully earned either the scorn or the praise.

 

Canadians flock to the US to get surgeries done that they can't get in Canada. Your medical system would have failed a long time ago without access to ample and excellent medical care in your southern neighbor.

 

I actually liked George Bush and thought he did an exceptional job. especially in the wake of 9/11

He can't have been that bad he ran for two terms. The American people voted him in twice.