1. Darkcula

    Darkcula Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2013
    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Lazyville

    Pen or Laptop, which one to use for better creative writing?

    Discussion in 'Word Mechanics' started by Darkcula, Jun 14, 2015.

    I think that when we perform in old fashioned style- ink on paper, we somehow release more insight and thoughtfulness into our composition. Relatively, while using a laptop, our creativity gets affected a bit. That's what happened with me It seems. I observed this phenomenon by comparing two separate pieces of my writing and the evident made me :D:DTYPE:D:D this post.

    HOWEVER,
    There's one mighty advantage that the Macbook has over the Parker- We can improvise on our content without a hassle. Imagine, Shakespeare plucking his hair while having to write with a quill (I guess, the ink pot might have spilled too damn much on such horrible nights :twisted:)
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2015
  2. Bryan Romer

    Bryan Romer Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2014
    Messages:
    889
    Likes Received:
    392
    Pen and paper is way too slow to keep up with my thoughts if the text is to be legible. Plus it would still have to be translated to electronic format for publishing. The act of writing doesn't affect my creativity, which takes place before I write, not during.
     
    izzybot likes this.
  3. izzybot

    izzybot (unspecified) Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2015
    Messages:
    2,419
    Likes Received:
    3,884
    Location:
    SC, USA
    Yeah, I think it's just a matter of what works for you, there's no universal Right Way To Do It. Some people are going to prefer a pencil in a spiral notebook, some a pen in a moleskine, some a typewriter, and just within those who prefer their computer there's varying opinions on the best word processor. Like Bryan, I can't write fast enough to keep up with my thoughts - I'll end up linking words and whole sentences together because cursive was the worst thing to ever happen to my handwriting, hahah. But I grew up using computers so obviously I'm very comfortable with a keyboard.

    Plus it makes editing, sharing, and submitting much easier, which I'm a big fan of since I'm mega lazy - I had no laptop for about a month at the start of this year and I kept writing in notebooks but transcribing was so tedious. Would not recommend.
     
    Darkcula likes this.
  4. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    13,984
    Likes Received:
    8,566
    Location:
    California, US
    I read a report on a study a while back that postulated people were more creative when writing with a pen or pencil. I know in my personal case my writing flows better when I do my writing longhand. The article pointed out that the motions required to write letters with a pen cause different areas of the brain to fire than does typing. There was also a study that said when you're taking notes (such as in class) you learn more if you're doing it longhand, than if you're typing on a laptop. The process of writing just seems to more fully engage the brain than the process of typing.
     
    Tesoro, Ivana, Viridian and 1 other person like this.
  5. GingerCoffee

    GingerCoffee Web Surfer Girl Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2013
    Messages:
    18,385
    Likes Received:
    7,081
    Location:
    Ralph's side of the island.
    One need only look at the hundreds of little scraps of paper with story ideas all over my desk without a remote semblance of organization to see that I can't function without a word processor. :bigconfused:
     
    Nicoel likes this.
  6. Rainer

    Rainer Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2010
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    19
    Location:
    UK
    Word processor all the way. My handwriting looks like a drunk person tried to draw hieroglyphics with their feet.
     
  7. Vrisnem

    Vrisnem Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2015
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    UK
    I find writing by hand frustrating when working on the actual draft. I feel like my terrible handwriting has an impact on how I interpret the work. 'My writing is a mess, so the content must be awful too.' I also have a habit of obsessively editing what I write (even with texts and posts) so having the ability to hit back space rather than constantly striking out words makes things easier too.

    However, I do find handwriting a great way to shake things up when I'm struggling to get the words to flow. I also do most of my planning work by hand via scribbled graphs and index cards (god bless The Board) as I find it easier to put ideas together when I can see them presented visually.
     
    Darkcula likes this.
  8. Rhys

    Rhys Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2015
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    24
    Location:
    Wales, UK
    I wouldn't even dream of hand writing ever again. Not only do I have horrible handwriting, it's way too slow! In fact, I dread the idea of writing without a keyboard. I don't even want to think how much longer it would have taken me to write what I have.
     
  9. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    13,984
    Likes Received:
    8,566
    Location:
    California, US
    Works for me as well. If I'm writing on my computer, which isn't all that often, and I'm getting stuck or losing my feeling of inspiration and/or creativity, I switch to my fountain pen and some nice paper. Never fails to solve the issue.
     
    Tesoro likes this.
  10. BayView

    BayView Huh. Interesting. Contributor

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    10,462
    Likes Received:
    11,689
    I'm another one who switches to paper when I'm stuck. Not for actual writing, but brainstorming and drawing charts and scribbling words down in clumps or whatever else is needed. I don't know if it's the writing itself or just that it's less linear, more graphic than typing. But it's usually a good way to kick things into gear when the computer isn't working for me.
     
  11. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    13,984
    Likes Received:
    8,566
    Location:
    California, US
    I think the motor skills you invoke when you're writing by hand, or drawing, or whatever, that require the actual movement of a writing instrument across a page, just requires use of different brain centers, and at least for me those centers appear to be more creative. Writing, drawings, painting, etc. all require to some degree similar types of hand movements that must be impacted in someway by creative centers of the brain.
     
    Viridian and BayView like this.
  12. RevGeo

    RevGeo Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    The mountains of N. Idaho.
    After spending the last 45 years playing guitar for a living, my hands are toast. I can't write two pages long hand without my right hand cramping. I don't like using a lap top. I learned to type on a real typewriter and the technique doesn't lend itself to a lap top very well. At least not for me. I write on an older Dell desk top that I use strictly as a word processor. I can type rapidly on that machine. I can't on a lap top.
    I don't think my creativity is influenced by the writing tool I use. I do know however, that I love being able to zap out a suck-ass sentence or paragraph with the push of a key. I have written a lot of stuff long-hand over the years and I hate the messy looking paper covered in slash marks, lined-out words, illegible scribbling and damn little prose. It's a lot easier to find the good stuff (if any) by erasing the obvious bad instantly.

    I am, by the way, pecking this out on my wife's lap top.
     
  13. NiallRoach

    NiallRoach Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2015
    Messages:
    669
    Likes Received:
    586
    Location:
    The middle of the UK
    Typing on laptops is something which I've always found to be awful.
    Handwriting anything longer than a shopping list is also something I've always found to be awful.

    Solution? Much the same as RevGeo's. I use a proper keyboard, though it is attached to my tablet PC, and it goes everywhere with me. It weighs three kilos and it cost me £70, but I type a damn sight faster on this thing than I do on basically anything else.
     
  14. minstrel

    minstrel Leader of the Insquirrelgency Supporter Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2010
    Messages:
    10,742
    Likes Received:
    9,993
    Location:
    Near Sedro Woolley, Washington
    I love what you hate! I love the way my hand-written manuscript looks with lined-out words, alternative sentences in the margins, corrections all over the place in interesting colors, etc. The messy-looking page you see is almost an art form to me - I want to frame some of my bad pages and hang them on the wall because they look cool and I had a blast writing them! There's something about word processors that just drain the color, interest, and creativity out of the process of writing. The pages look cold and sterile and they have no history. Hand-written pages look like they've been created by human beings who've had lives and ups and downs and loves and losses, and all that reflects in the way they create. Word-processed pages look like they've been created by robots who were just delivered from the factory this morning.

    (I'm not saying they ARE created by robots; they just look like it. I say we should embrace our humanity and our fallibility and our endless corrections and be proud of them!) ;)
     
    Tesoro and Viridian like this.
  15. Viridian

    Viridian Member Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    442
    Likes Received:
    291
    Location:
    New Zealand
    I use both. I prefer handwriting to begin with and carry a notebook everywhere I go. Its all very rough bashed out ideas. Then I put it all together using a desktop computer (not a huge fan of laptop keyboards myself). Ultimately I prefer good old fashioned paper, and that goes for reading too - can't abide those ruddy kindles!
     
  16. Hubardo

    Hubardo Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2014
    Messages:
    1,079
    Likes Received:
    574
    Many times, I'll begin on paper then type it into the computer, then go from there. As others said, when I'm stuck, I find going back to paper can be helpful. It slows me down. So yeah, both. :)
     
  17. terobi

    terobi Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    339
    Likes Received:
    253
    Location:
    Manchester, UK
    I had a massive laptop malfunction last year and wrote an entire chapter of my WIP on my phone. That.... I really don't recommend.
     
    Ivana likes this.
  18. GingerCoffee

    GingerCoffee Web Surfer Girl Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2013
    Messages:
    18,385
    Likes Received:
    7,081
    Location:
    Ralph's side of the island.
    Always look to someone who had it harder than you:
    The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
     
    terobi and minstrel like this.
  19. Ms. DiAnonyma

    Ms. DiAnonyma Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2015
    Messages:
    127
    Likes Received:
    26
    Yes, there's certainly something to be said for the incredible speed (and ease of editing) with a word processor. But I do know (and feel) what Steerpike's been saying; (perhaps we've seen/heard of the same studies?). The kinetic motion does something different in the brain, that's for sure, which is why I always take notes by hand ( the much faster option, typing, would make so much more sense otherwise).

    For creative writing, I usually most enjoy the facilitation of the editing that a laptop gives (and even the optional markup tracking available on word, minstrel; ooh, look at all the changes I've made...:). But I'm afraid it makes one (well, me at least) less careful in word choice... Or, at least, less economical. So, while it makes it easier perhaps to make some things better, it also removes the conscious effort involved in just writing by hand. It's pretty much an extension of the example of how the printing press changed books... Instead of elaborate, hand-copied treasures, books became mass-produced objects, much more accessible, and even disposable. Greater quantities of lower quality work resulted, as well as the great masterpieces...

    So, I'm going to stick with a combo to try and get the best of both- using pen particularly when I just get too verbose... I guess I better go write this post out and then come back and edit it...
     
  20. GingerCoffee

    GingerCoffee Web Surfer Girl Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2013
    Messages:
    18,385
    Likes Received:
    7,081
    Location:
    Ralph's side of the island.
    The last time I took notes, such as when one is listening to a lecture, I did them by hand, then rarely looked at them again. I agree, for learning, that does reinforce one's memory of the lecture. It's why those little notes are all over my desk, and house. I will jot an idea down when it comes to me. If I'm not on the computer, paper is quicker.

    But for the actual writing, I'm not trying to remember it, I'm trying to get it down in a coherent form.
     
  21. ChickenFreak

    ChickenFreak Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    15,261
    Likes Received:
    13,082
    My handwriting is so very bad and laborious that I can't hand-write and maintain any flow at all.

    But in the past few weeks I've been planning a quite-large-for-me (70 foot by 70 foot) vegetable garden, and I find that the planning only really goes well when I use pencil and eraser and straight edge to draw the garden plan on paper. My pitiful handwriting coherence and speed are sufficient (barely) for this--I can usually maintain focus on readable lettering when writing phrases no longer than "Overwintering Broccoli."

    It is surprising to find that paper does foster creativity in this area.
     
  22. Ivana

    Ivana Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    268
    Likes Received:
    152
    Location:
    Far side of Unatsu
    When I was a kid I always hand-wrote, and when it comes to taking notes in class and learning better - it is so true! But now I type like a hundred times faster than I can hand-write, plus my hand really hurts when I try to write fast.
    Also, when it comes to creative writing, I noticed that typing kinda constraints and disciplines my thoughts and makes me a better "pantser". Perhaps I would shoot more creative stuff if I were writing on a paper, but I think it would take a lot of time and it wouldn't be as organized (maybe that's why my first draft is my only draft). :)
     
  23. Shadowfax

    Shadowfax Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,420
    Likes Received:
    1,991
    The best FD I ever worked with INSISTED that every report you showed him had something written on it by hand. Because anybody can print out something that looks great, but only with handwriting on it do you know that a human being with a brain (he hoped) has looked at it and (he hoped) thought about it and whether it makes sense, or whether it's just a list of numbers that add up.
     
  24. Tesoro

    Tesoro Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2011
    Messages:
    2,818
    Likes Received:
    300
    Location:
    A place with no future
    I'm one of those who prefer handwriting as well, even though I've been writing on my laptop the last few years. Thinking of going back to handwriting now, actually, since I decided to take a break from writing for publishing. When I was younger I was always writing my stories by hand, (there were no laptops and even the computers weren't common in every household like they are today.)
    I've been thinking about something related to this, when reading and thinking about how people used to write on typewriters, and how much more work it must have been, typing and retyping everything for each revision, but I started to think that maybe knowing all of the work awaiting you, maybe those writers put more thought into what they put on the paper, instead of just writing on and letting the words just come out as they appear in their heads, like many do today. Maybe they put more effort into crafting each sentence before they put them down on paper, so they wouldn't have so much work later? Of course they still had to rewrite, I guess, and edit, but since it wasn't as easy as it is today with modern word processors... Well, that was just a thought. I know about a very well known writer where I live who still today uses a typewriter (electrical, I assume ;) )to write his Ms's. and he's written something like 50 books and numerous articles. it makes me really curious about what his writing process looks like. :)
     
  25. jen_writer

    jen_writer Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2015
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    Wales
    I prefer pen and paper, I type up when I rewrite.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice