The Not Happy Thread

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  1. Dante Dases

    Dante Dases Contributor Contributor

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    Contrary to occasional appearances, I am a damn good listener. I'd like to add my voice to those offering an outlet if you need one, even if it's just to vent. I know what it's like to go through things you don't want to tell people about (a long time ago now, but still) and to listen to people who are going through such things.

    Best wishes, and I hope everything turns out well for you.
     
  2. Eunoia

    Eunoia Contributor Contributor

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    Ha, I don't want anyone beaten up, don't worry.

    Thank you.

    I'm writing it all down so hopefully that helps in one way or another.
     
  3. Ice Queen

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    I know a little of what you feel here... You've had your dog longer than I had my rabbit. I really hope he makes it, if not ... -hug- I thought my bunny would make it because they said that the parasite thing they thought she had was treatable; but it ended up with her having three seizures in the space of 40 minutes; with me being clawed to bits and trying to hold her down to keep her from hurting herself; she was making little grunts of pain. It was horrible. My mum drove her to the vets and they had to put her to sleep, I think she was all alone. It hurts so bad that it happened, she was only 1 year old. I know it had to happen to save her the pain but I wished I could be with her to make her feel safe :'c

    I can sympathise with you about the vet; we are not very well off right now, and the vet bill was over £500 or more altogether; my sisters and I had to pay for it with our savings just so the vets would give the poor bunny a chance to live... They couldn't save her and they couldn't even tell us what was wrong... Daytime robbery, right? I thought vets were meant to care about animals.
     
  4. Corbyn

    Corbyn Lost in my own head Supporter Contributor

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    I work as I've said before.. In a vet clinic. I've lost many of my own animals and many patients animals that I was very close to. It is difficult for us as a profession to watch OWNERS and pets suffer. Unfortunately, vets are people to. They aren't super human and don't have all the answers. I realize your upset at the loss of your pet, but if you really thought this Vet didn't care about animals I doubt you would have taken your pet there to begin with.

    That being said.. My thoughts are with everyone who has lost pets this week.
     
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  5. EdFromNY

    EdFromNY Hope to improve with age Supporter Contributor

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    Any time. Consider it a standing offer. In the meantime, I hope things get better for you.
     
  6. Ice Queen

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    I said nothing about all vets being like that- but frankly the emergency vet we took my rabbit to was utterly useless. We had no choice because it was a Saturday and all we were thinking about at the time was saving my pet's life. No other vets were open. We didn't have any time to look for the PDSA or anything like that. We took my rabbit in there, as we had called beforehand- when we got there we were told to sitting the waiting room; while my rabbit was having a seizure. There were no other patients there or anything. Then we were given an ultimatum: put her to sleep or fork over over £400 for emergency treatment. Well; fat lot of good it did because she continued to have seizures anyway and they couldn't say what was wrong. They gave her an x-ray- only on her abdomen. Even I know that seizures are related to neurology and I don't have a medicine degree; so I can't fathom why they didn't x-ray her head when we had to fork over so much money for it.

    In fact, I found out more about my rabbit's condition after 5 minutes of googling than they did after a whole night with her and £400 from a couple of children's piggybanks.

    All the while we were there my poor little sister was breaking her heart crying because of our pet's suffering- yet still that vet didn't treat her until we'd promised them the money. Don't tell me that they cared more about my rabbit than making their money.

    I can tell you right now- if I could have saved her myself I would have; now she's dead and that vet is still collecting extortionate amounts of money from animal lovers desperate to save their pets.

    I'm not an idiot. I know that vets are people too and that they don't know everything. But I also know what I went through and what my rabbit went through. And I know that the vet failed on all counts. I'm sure you're just being reasonable and all that; but don't try and make me seem like a moron. I wasn't insulting you- just the crappy vet I went to.
     
  7. Eunoia

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    Thanks for the kind offer.

    As for people who have pets that are ill, I hope they recover. And if not and they pass away, then I'm sorry. I've had my pets die and, although it didn't effect me that much if I'm honest, I know pets can be best friends to people.
     
  8. Corbyn

    Corbyn Lost in my own head Supporter Contributor

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    I don't believe for a minute that you were insulting me or other veterinarians. Sometimes however despite doing all sorts of tests, which I'm not saying they did or didn't do... Those tests don't give us the answers we need or want in order to help.

    I have no idea why they did an xray unless they believed that the bunny had eaten something to cause the seizures. At any rate there are few tests available to locate why the seizures are happening save for blood work and even that doesn't give you a pin point reason.

    Rabbits are difficult to treat as are most pocket pets like ferrets. Basic procedure is to try to lessen the seizures and stabilize the pet with IVs if needed. It's basic support until the animals system can take over and right itself.

    The best comparison for a seizure would be that it's like a light switch in the brain that has malfunctioned. You have to try to make sure the "switch" doesn't get flicked again and hope the system can recover. From personal experience with pets, this is hard thing to go through.

    I really do feel for your sister and you, and especially your rabbit because I know how difficult seizures can be. I've also had experience with German vets and the amount of money they expect you to pay for care. As far as Veterinary care goes.. emergency vet clinics are notorious for over priced care anyway, mostly due to the fact that they are all about stabilization and often don't treat underlying causes. They're like the MASH unit of the vet world.. patch up the pet and send it to a regular vet. At least in our area of the world.

    I know sometimes as a pet owner that has to deal with cost and care it's difficult to see the care underlying a great deal of cost. I'm not trying to justify what the vet did to you or even condone it. I'm hoping to shed a little light for you as far as procedure, no matter what differences in the medicine there are between where you are and here.. There are still some bare bone basics .. I hope this helped.
     
  9. Baywriter

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    I'm just mad all the time... I guess that means I'm not happy. But there are just some people that piss me off. And all I want to say is, "Get over yourself. You are not that great." My sister being one of those people. She just acts like she's entitled to everything. And that she shouldn't have to work for anything she gets. She thinks she's going to get a job without a degree just because she's a good artist and expects my mother to pay for all her **** in the mean time. Come on... Seriously? What planet does she live on? I'm so sick of living with her. I work my ass off and if I leave a dish in the sink for later, she comes in and tells me I'm lazy. Uh... REALLY? I finished all of my classes. I've been working the whole time. I'm about to start 45 hour a week internship to get my certification done before I start finishing up my biochemistry degree. Oh, and by the way, I have a baby. And I'm only 20. She's 22, does nothing. Doesn't work. Doesn't go to school. **** her.

    Ah, I feel better. Gonna go cuddle with my son!
     
  10. Mallory

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    Well between you and your sis, we all know which one will go way farther in life, don't we? :D in 10 years, you'll be enjoying a much higher standard of living because of the way you work so hard now...youll be a dentist, great hours, nice house, smart and loving kid....where will she be? Doing fine I'm sure, but she probably won't have it as easy as you will. You have to pay the piper either now or later as my grandpa always says...
     
  11. Corbyn

    Corbyn Lost in my own head Supporter Contributor

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    ^ Very very smart Grandpa
     
  12. Lydia

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    I know I'm a bit late seeing this, but might this be about something you once told me? I'm just guessing, sorry if it's not!

    But anyway, if you need an ear, I'm always here.
     
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    Oi! Don't bash us lazy's! Just because we have a serious entitlement complex doesn't give you any reason to yell at us for it, we can't help that we feel that the whole world should bow down to us :D
     
  14. Dante Dases

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    Well, that's the dole applied for. My feeling of self-worth is completely destroyed.
     
  15. Banzai

    Banzai One-time Mod, but on the road to recovery Contributor

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    Oh Christ, I can see myself having to do this soon...
     
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    I refuse to think about it. Hopefully I can sort my Uni situation out very shortly and I won't have to worry about the dole for another while at least! lol
     
  17. Dante Dases

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    I could probably go 2-3 weeks more without taking the step, but if I'm eligible, I'm eligible. All being well, it will be very short term, perhaps a month at most. I've got a few more applications off today (at the cost of not finishing the story I told myself I would have done by now), so fingers crossed that something comes of those.
     
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    Don't be too hard on yourselves, guys. A difficult time to be looking.

    So it goes.

    Besides, chances are you have forty years or so of work ahead of you...so nothing wrong with giving yourselves a breather. Summer is upon us! Good times beckon.
     
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    Ah, Been gone the past few days, cause I'm losing someone close to me from cancer. They told us it was only a matter of days on friday.. But the hardest thing I've ever had to do was put on a straightface whenever That person said " I'm dying, I can't handle this, I'm not strong enough.. I need to be baptized now instead of tomorrow, because, I'm not gonna be here that long. I can't wait." He went downhill today..
     
  20. Eunoia

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    Partially, yes it is. Thank you for the offer.

    Sorry you have to go through this. I don't think there's much I can say, but I hope people are supporting you while you support that person.
     
  21. Trish

    Trish Damned if I do and damned if I don't Contributor

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    I'm sorry, Jayyy :( *hugs* Not much more I can say...
     
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    Thanks
     
  23. Ashleigh

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    Ugh, novel progress is so slow. I'm still in the fear-of-beginning stage. I feel like my writing is just getting poorer and I can't get into the swing of things. I'm reading all these fantastic books and yet none of it seems to be rubbing off on me. I feel like I'm getting worse. :( Maybe I'm just not good enough to write a novel.
     
  24. Dante Dases

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    Ashleigh, we all go through periods of feeling like that about our writing. Maybe the fact that it's a form you're not used to writing makes you feel differently about your writing. It's got to such a length now that you're overthinking what's gone before. (I'm going on your signature for progress).

    And if you compare your writing it will sometimes feel like it pales against what you're reading, because it's a different style. At other times you'll have read something people say is decent and have thought 'I can do better'.

    So a bit of belief in yourself. Maybe take a day off the novel and do something different, then come back to it refreshed and confident in your abilities. (They're not bad - you've got twice my number of acceptances).
     
  25. Corbyn

    Corbyn Lost in my own head Supporter Contributor

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    ^ Ashleigh Nonsense! The novels your reading ...why are they great to you? ... what excites you about them?

    Jot those things down... sit your rear in a chair and just write!...The more you write and incorporate the things you loved the better WE all get!

    at least this is what I keep telling myself when I start to feel that way!
     
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