The Writers Block Thread

Discussion in 'General Writing' started by Sapphire, Sep 21, 2006.

  1. 123456789

    123456789 Contributor Contributor

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    It's uhhh, different when you're in a collaboration. Yeah, that's it.
     
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    Keitsumah The Dream-Walker Contributor

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    My story, very, very long ago, was inspired by the game runescape and my character Cyllinthia XD now my char is in a world covered by ice and snow and fighting giant wolf shape shifters.
     
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    Mckk Member Supporter Contributor

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    Lol. Why? If you actually want to write, then make the decision to write.

    And if you don't actually want to write and would prefer to dream of worlds and characters - that's absolutely fine too. Nothing wrong with that.

    I don't see why you *have* to be a writer. Whether you are a writer or not, at the end of the day it doesn't matter that much. It only matters as much as you think it matters.

    And if it matters enough, then just make the choice to write. If not, then enjoy the dreaming and pursue something else that fires you up more. No shame in that.
     
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    Dunning Kruger Active Member

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    Being a fantasizer is a prerequisite for being a writer.

    There's a lot of motivational bullshit out there about reaching for the stars, dream big and stuff like that. BULLSHIT. Start small. Create a foundation of small, attainable successes. Give yourself something small to feel good about. Once you do that, go on to something a little bigger. Michael Jordan started by shooting 5 foot shots, Tiger Woods 5 foot putts, the Beatles playing covers in Hamburg, Stephen King short stories as a teenager. Build your confidence and your technical self-esteem. If you cant do that, you're not meant to be a writer. But give yourself a chance first.
     
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    Oh thought I'd add - my first ever novel was inspired by the old RPG Baldur's Gate :D

    Seems pretty common to be inspired by such things lol.
     
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    When I was a kid I daydreamed too. I'm not sure how much, if any, influence that has on my current writing. It would sort of be like saying, "my natural desire to eat food made me the world famous chef I am today."
    No, sorry, developing writing skill goes far, far beyond one's ability/desire to imagine.
     
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    Dunning Kruger Active Member

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    Writers who dont daydream write directions for assembling Ikea furniture or become sportswriters. Loving food actually is a prerequisite to becoming a great chef. I'm not saying fantasizing is sufficient anymore than loving food is sufficient. In fact, I'm basically agreeing with you. It takes a lot of practice. I'm just emphasizing ways to build a pattern of success rather than setting yourself up for failure by taking on more than you're capable of at a given point in time.
     
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    I daydream about Ikea furniture.
     
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    I have faced your exact problem except I know I want to finish. All the same I want to give you a piece of advise I think will help and I don't think anyone said exactly. I may be wrong I only skimmed. Which is this;

    Push it to the side. Let the work sit there. Don't beat yourself up about it. Try to prohibit yourself from reserving time for it. Try to forget about it for a month. See what happens.

    If you love it. You will miss it and you will want to come back to it. It should be easier to make time for it when you want to do it. When you turn it to a chore that your fighting with yourself to do it than it becoming a bane of your day not the crescendo. I mean I KNOW I plan to finish and I still do this. I sometimes work too hard or have a tiring month and need to drop it for a while just to let the fire regain that bright glow that compels me to continue.
     
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    I also agree with what you said. I just wanted to let the OP know that there are various reasons that one is unable to write, and that he should consider other reasons before deciding that writing is definitively not for him.
     
  11. T.Trian

    T.Trian Overly Pompous Bastard Supporter Contributor

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    Just a quick OT tip: a punch to the stomach, even from a man, probably wouldn't drop a guy. I'd actually make her knee him in the groin but not full-force (and she could say he's lucky she didn't use full force). Just another suggestion from a martial arts/self-defense enthusiast. :cool:
     
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    Solar plexus
     
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    My heart goes out to you..
     
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    Crotch strikes, unless carried out perfectly, are not as disabling as commonly portrayed. It is more likely to make the victim very angry, angry enough to kill.
     
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    I've heard it's better to go for the eyes and kneecaps.
     
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    Eyes are good, although everyone is super cautious about their eyes, so it is harder in many cases, and if you lift you hand or hands, you are exposing your body and crotch to a counter strike.

    For the knees, you go for the side or back of knee in most cases. IF the opponent's leg is completely straight i.e. the knee is locked, then a kick directly front to back can break the knee (it only takes 60 pounds of pressure).
     
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    I spent some time boxing in my youth, and I always thought it was best to close your eyes and windmill. If that fails you are best to grab a handful of hair and scratch for all your worth.
     
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    lol thanks for all the suggestions guys but at best i want the character to just be really annoying for my protagonist. I don't want him to come to any serious harm i mean gosh he only kissed her! XD
     
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    I've recently started using two methods for avoiding my writer's block that have been working well for me, so I thought I'd share them. First off, these methods are primarily aimed towards allowing a writer to further construct his or her own story. While I'm not sure if all writer's block can be attributed to rejection/perfection paralysis or not knowing your story well enough, I think those things have caused me and other writers trouble.

    1. Ditch the computer for pen and paper. This may be more idiosyncratic to myself, but I often freeze up when trying to plan aspects of my story on a computer. I've read an author state that typing doesn't mesh well with how her brain works, and I think this may be the case with me as well. When I'm trying to come up with ideas, I want my process to be as free style as possible. Sometimes that means drawing impromptu arrows connecting ideas, or underlining things to keep them in the back of my mind, or writing on the side of the paper if it's less important, etc. Handwriting is more conducive to this than typing.

    In addition--and perhaps more importantly--I don't face the distraction of the internet being one click away.

    2. Limit yourself--both your topic and the amount of time you will spend on it. This method is geared toward people who have rejection or perfection paralysis. I recently read Coffee Break Screenwriting, which had numerous exercises that would help a writer write his or her story. The author recommended giving yourself only 10 minutes to complete each exercise, with the intent that your brain will be able to focus better when it has a time and topic limitation. Her first exercise, for example, consisted of thinking up ideas for: your protagonist, your protagonist's problem, your protagonist's activity, and what's at stake for your protagonist. The exercises can then progress depending on how far along you are with your story. You might be surprised how many good ideas you can come up with in 10 minutes.

    These two methods may not work for everyone and may not work every time, but they're something to consider if you're facing writer's block.
     
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    I like the idea of working with pen and paper. I often do this myself - it makes me feel more in control of the process.

    I wonder if that's a function of age. I grew up in the 60s and 70s - those were my childhood and teen years. There were no personal computers and no word processors. I eventually got a typewriter, but it was a bit scary because if I made a typo (which I did an awful lot) correcting it was a huge pain in the ass. Liquid Paper, usually. Eventually I had one of those eraser ribbons, but it still was a pain. It was damn hard to make a typed page look properly finished.

    At that time, it was simply easier to write by hand. Nobody expected anything beyond simple legibility, and I could do that. It also slowed me down and made me think, not only about what I wanted to say but the exact words I wanted to say it with, before I set the pen to the paper. My prose is still a lot better if I write it out by hand first before transcribing it to the laptop.

    But kids who grew up with computers probably think completely differently about this. They've never really had to use pen and paper. The computer is their pen and paper - it's as fluid an interface for them as pen and paper is for me. If you tell them to work with pen and paper, they look at you like you're from another planet - or from the ancient past.
     
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    I found the same thing true about computer and paper. It's very easy to get distracted while on the computer.

    Recently, I have gone back to paper and pen and it has gotten me over a block. Another important lesson was that... there aren't scenes not worth writing. If you can envision a scene then you should be able to write it, otherwise it's a lack of practice... which is solved only by writing the scene.

    A third lesson was that people read trash. Bad fanfictions is prominent, and it can be weirdly encouraging to see how people can read and love absolute garbage. If you're feeling bad about your writing, go read some bad fanfictions. It's so awful yet so many people love it that you shall no longer fear people reading you. Clearly among those abominations your writing won't be in danger.
    It helps.

    A fourth note on computer. I still use it as the quality is much better on computer. I have taken to organize the narration more than make it proper on paper, which saves me a lot of time actually. Writing on computer allows for rewrite and overall much better quality, but only when you've part to string together or rework on.
    It's, for me at least, much easier to focus on a scene while writing on paper.


    Also, music. Don't use music while organizing your scenes and considering what characters feel. Music is wonderful when you've things written out and need to put the feel in. But when you aren't sure whether to scrap a scene or which tone you should be using... then it's just distracting.
     
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    I'm kind of self limiting when it comes to writing; there's a point where I'll just have to stop for the day/week/month.

    On the computer note, I'm really not a fan of writing with a pen and paper. I find the entire process limiting. I can't fix clunky phrasing, I get twitchy as I approach the bottom of the page and my wrist starts falling off the bottom of the page, I never keep a notebook pristine enough...
    That aside, I genuinely enjoy the process of typing for more than I do writing by hand. The clicking of keyboard, if occasionally obnoxiously loud, is order of magnitude more satisfying to me in the heat of the moment, even if the finished product doesn't quite have the same "tada!".
     
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    I use pen and paper as well, and I'm 26, so I don't think it's an age thing. I only use pen and paper for my ideas though. Once I start actually writing, I switch to computer. It's too slow to write the story by hand then transfer it onto the computer. But I have notebooks upon notebooks on novel ideas and free writing and all that. :)
     
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    I did an experiment with writing a whole first draft just with pen and paper. At first, it was tiresome, but the scenes and the dialogue inside my head were more vivid than typing it out pell-mell. When it came to revising it, I was met with another stomach turner--retyping. As I retyped everything, I found out that I was editing the same time, and the sentences were falling into place. My fingers stopped when I began typing a sentence that I felt was bad, like really bad. At that point, I rewrite it rather than retype it. After finishing the second draft, about 90% of the first draft was rewritten.

    Right now, I prefer writing my first drafts with pen and paper. The next draft is retyping/rewriting--anything that sucks will not make it, kinda' like a writing evolution if you will.
     
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    Even that requires some oomph behind the shot, and even then it's not a sure shot. Hence:


    That's true. It'd just be poetic justice for a cocky douche to get kneed in the nuts, but if you want a more certain result, I'd go for a KO from the jawline/chin, and even then preferably using some appropriate blunt object to increase the chances of success if the character isn't strong and skilled enough to consistently KO with a well-aimed shot. But, as @Keitsumah said, the scene doesn't appear to call for that level of violence.
     

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