Novel Titles

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  1. Cogito

    Cogito Former Mod, Retired Supporter Contributor

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    Or leave it as is for now as a working title. When the book nears completion, you may come up with a name with a bit more snap. And if you don't come up with something yourself, your agent or publisher may suggest something with greater market appeal.

    It isn't that Soulless is a bad title, but it does seem a bit bland and generic, in my opinion.
     
  2. fantasy girl

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    if i believe rightly in all j.k rowling' the names are coppie righted so you couldent put harry potter and the half blood prince in the title and you couldn't call a character hermiony granger or serious black so in some aspets if a name is coppie righted and it is in the title of the book then surley the title is partley coppie righten then
     
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    Names would be trademarked, not copyrighted. Trademark, in contrast to copyright, does not apply automatically/ My question to Maia was whether she knew of a protection that would automatically apply in the case of clearly "ripoff" titles like the one above. Giving such a title to a a book by someone other than Ms. Rowling would clearly be fraudulent in intent, so I'm wondering what, if any, law would apply without the author having to file trademark registrations.
     
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    Yeah it is punisable by law. How about forbiddin love? Demon Love. I don't know. What would be considered a title with a snap give me some examples please.
     
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    The best title is one selected by the author when the book is finished. Who better knows the story and all its facets?
     
  6. sprirj

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    I named my book before I wrote it, that has now become a working title because goalposts have shifted.
     
  7. fantasy girl

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    i am having the same problem at the moment and cant seem to find another
     
  8. sprirj

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    Whats the basic idea of your book .... (if you can give anything away???). I'm usually good at titles. I've come up with loads of band names, fanzine titles, & company names and slogans in the past (graphic designer by trade, so its kinda my job :p)
     
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    Most of my titles are either haphazardly tossed on or I have come up with them before I've begun writing the story. My titles tend to be...unique...so I haven't had much trouble with that before, except I wanted to name my one story Phantasm, but didn't want it to sound like it had any relation to the (fantastic) film.
     
  10. fantasy girl

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    a normal boy keeps having this dreem that the queen of this magical kingdom is in trouble, he then falls into a coma and ends up traveling to the magical kingdom finding out he is a changling who is next in line for the thrown but he has to save the queen from the sorcerer as he is the only one with powers strong enough to defeat him
     
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    What did you end up calling it?

    I called one of my bands albums 'Phantasmagoria' if that helps???
     
  12. mammamaia

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    in re your question, cog...

    as far as i know, and can tell from the us copyright laws [which are virtually the same for all countries that are signatories to the berne convention], rowling can't copyright her titles any more than any lesser-known author can... as witness the many books, movies, and songs that exist with the same titles...

    however, if someone used one of her titles [whether exact, or close enough] with the clear intent to defraud, then she would have cause to bring a civil suit for various and sundry torts, as well as request that criminal charges be brought against the perp... whether either would be successful is not certain, as it could be hard to prove intent...

    hope that answers your question satisfactorily... hugs, m
     
  13. sprirj

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    Maybe an important charcters name? Or the name of this magical kingdom?

    Its not a lot to go on, have you a chapter I can read?

    ps its throne:rolleyes:
     
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    Problem is am not that creative. Everytime I write it lingers in the back of my mind "What am I going to call this?" I just can't get it to stop.
     
  15. Emmy

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    I'm curious to know how other writers decide what to name their projects...

    Some great titles that come immediately to mind are:

    - Black Snake Moan (was this a book before the movie? Not sure, but love the title)
    - Midnight In the Garden of Good and Evil
    - Ghost
    - Lolita
    - Mansfield Park
    - The Garden of Eden

    Judging by these varying works, the names are interesting and intelligent choices.

    How do you name yours?
     
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    I didn't know the title of my book when I began working on it, but I had a strong feeling that if I just put off naming it til later, and didn't fret over it much, the name would just come to me. I was right, I got to a point in the middle of the book where something happened with one of the scenes and it just gave me the perfect idea for the name. The name has a nice ring to it and I'm really happy with it, as soon as I thought of it there was a lightbulb moment and I could just picture it written on the cover with my name underneath. It felt right. :)

    So yeah, I say don't name the story, let the story name itself!
     
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    ghost, lolita and mansfield park? IMO, there isn't anything particular inspired about those titles (not that the works themselves aren't great)...Lolita is a character's name (nothing original there), mansfield park is the setting (again, nothing new) and ghost, the principal plot element (think snakes on a plane....)

    i have no system for titling my works, and usually i just do one of those three things above....i think my favourite title right now is Enduring Love by Ian McEwan, simply for the amount of depth he crams into those 2 words...think of all the different ways you can construe the meaning of those words when theyre on their own like that....
     
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    Consanguine Curse, although I have other titles I can use if that one is already taken. The inspiration is one of my friend's mottos: 'never break the consanguine curse.' It seemed so suitable, so I decided to use it as a title.
     
  19. fantasy girl

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    my current project was going to be called 'the innocent's race' as some one innocent was going to have to go on the run, but the goal poast shifted as the mc no longer has to go on the run so it is now called 'Crystal City: Tabithas Rescue' as the kingdome is called crystal city and some one called tabitha gets rescued. so my titles reflect what happens in the story without giving to much away.
     
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    I've always like the idea of titles that aren’t eminently clear till later on in the story.
     
  21. RomanticRose

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    Unless a title just jumps out at me, a project's working title is always the first name of the MC.
     
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    i don't... they seem to name themselves...
     
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    When it comes to titling poetry, there's normally a couple words or a line that jumps out at me and that's what it ends up being titled. As for novels, I write them first and then let the title just sort of happen.

    ~Lynn
     
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    I wish mine named themselves; would save me the trouble of titling them something unimaginative.
     
  25. psyence53

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    Haha, Dr. Doctor - I second that!

    Rarely (or never) do I find a good title. I'm hoping it'll get easier with the more progress I make. The only title of mine I am happy with is "Butterflies & Black Holes." You might all say it's rubbish in which case...FAIL. But I think it fits with the general idea. It only came about because of the music I was listening to. And it just occured at the time that my alterations seemed right for the book. I can't see anything better cropping up for that one.

    Naming my first script was awful. I really did resort to a dictionary. I don't remember if that DID find my title, but i settled on "Disposable." Perhaps obvious when you know the story, perhaps not. But it's fits enough for me NOT to label it a working title. And "Kodomo" too - felt PERFECT. Only... it will be awkward if the characters end up English instead of Japanese :/ in which case the whole title will be RUINED *frets*

    Otherwise... i'm hopeless.
    Sorry for the uselessness xD

    I often wonder about titles too. When I see a good title, or film title, song title, I ALWAYS wonder how/why.:confused:
     

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