Twilight Series by Stephenie Meyer

She did a good job at appealing to the young female audience, particularly the younger female audience. I agree. Good for her. I'll send her a nice letter in the mail, thanking her for just that. Because, apparently, writing has become all about appeal now, not longer GOOD, SOLID, TALENTED writing.
But, like I SAID, from a critical point of view (as well as MY opinion,) I found the book to be trash. Most of the people in love with her series, I find, are pretty amusing. The events in the book are actually rather disturbing. For instance, he watches her while she sleeps. Um...creepy much?
Also, would you note that a large sum of the dedicated Twilight readers found her last installment to be disappointing. The reviews on Amazon.com speak for themselves. There's no denying that she's not a good writer. She got lucky and found a group of fans that are often not aware of what good writing is. The majority being very young, impressible girls. I mean, there's nothing wrong with enjoying the story. But the mass sum of the fans are at that age. And the older fans are still respectable to enjoy the story. Like I said, it's only my opinion.

 

I am a thirty-year-old male. I tried to figure out why I liked Twilight, and I shared some of my theories in another post. I'm still not sure completely why, but it has a certain charm to it. She writes well enough that I always know what is happening, and I can visualize each scene well. She has gotten much better over time. Breaking Dawn (4th novel in the series) is written much better, and I enjoyed it much more than Twilight. I thought it had a gripping plot. And Alice kicks ass. I am not really sure why so many fans were unhappy with Breaking Dawn. It seems to be the younger people that were not completely happy with it. Perhaps it is because Bella gets pregnant. Teens sort of fear that.

 

I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm glad you enjoyed the novels as much as you did. The foundation of reading is, of course, enjoyment. I did find the first one to be an okay read, but the books slowly grew worse as the series progressed. I believe the books don't really have a plot. Would someone care to explain to me where this magical, charming, witty plot is? All I see is vampire vile and cliche conflicts...

 

Twilights plot: (Spoiler) Sorry I don’t now how to do the box thing. Maybe someone can tell me how to do this?

A girl moves to a new town and she feels like she doesn’t fit in. She never has felt like she fits in anywhere. She meats a cut boy, and the more she gets the know him the more comfortable she feels around him. The more she gets to know his family the more comfortable she feels around them. What drives the story is her desire to fit in, not really her desire for Edward.

An evil vampire stands in her way. In the end she gives up and decides to give up what she wants to save her mother. The vamps save her, and she in the end she feels like she belongs. She wants to be a vampire for that is where she belongs, where she feels alive.

Breaking Dawn’s plot: (Spoiler)

Bella is getting older, and she wants to be a vampire. She ends up getting pregnant before becoming a vampire. Her desire is to protect the child. This is what drives the whole story. She calls Rosalie to help her. The werewolves think the child is a threat and want to destroy it. Jacob has a change of heart and helps protect the child. Edward is forced to change Bella into a vampire after she gives birth, or she would have died. Then the Volturi found out about the born child, and they want to destroy her. Bella discovers she has a special ability. She trains. End the end it is Bella who holds the Volturi back, and saves her own child. Not only has she truly found her place and where she feels like she belongs, but she went from the weakest person in the series to the most powerful.


That is what a plot is right? Events driven forward to the conclusion by a single desire, and a conflict keeping the MC from reaching their goal.

 

I would say exactly the same thing.

 

A thought about Twilight's book cover. I am not sure if Meyer has said anything about this, but it seems to me that it is making the connection between Eve's temptation of the apple (I know the bible does not say apple, but that is the fruit people think of because of the paintings) and Bella being tempted by vampirism.

It actually makes sense she would view vampirism that way because she is a Mormon.

 

I finished New Moon. Parachute if you would like I could show how it has a sound plot structure as well. The driving force is Bella's desire to end the void she feels.

 

I refuse to let one more person say anything about "impressible readers."

Anyone who says that this series is bad 'cause Edward is in her bedroom at night or because they are glued to each other and make out all the time has NEVER actually read a book intended for teenagers. This entire series is NOTHING compared to some of the stuff out there. NOTHING AT ALL. A large number of young adult books are so much worse than anything that happens in any of the four books.

 

She said on her site that it represents the "forbidden fruit."

I makes sense.

 

Movie thoughts?

 

It was alright. They needed more money (better special effects, better director, better just about everything). It was funny, but in all the wrong spots.

Since I'm in love with Twilight, I'd go see it again.

*Emmett was my favorite =D*

 

Yes they do need better everything. And yes, Emmett was one of my favorites. I loved how Jasper just started at her, it aws hilarious for me. Im all time favorite would have to be Edward though, he is just to cute!

 

It's like Harry Potter with vampires that are making out.

It's okay. Harry Potter was an okay series. Twilight is an okay series.

They're okay!

 

Just putting this out there as a question.

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I need to figure out that white thingy.

How does a fluidless vampire impregnate her? Does the author address that?

 

I don't recall the vampires being fluidless. Can you recall in what book it says that?

 

Well...

undead. You kind of have to be alive to produce semen.

My sister was curious, and I was at a loss.

 

Well to my knowledge the book never says they don't have body fluids. In most modern vampire stories the vampires have spit, and other bodily fluids. It would be pretty strange kissing a vampire if he had dry mouth.

We are dealing with pretty much supernatural beings here so anything is possible.

 

I guess if it were simply in my imagination I could create a superhot guy with fangs and call him Dracula. =)

I think Anne Rice had vampires spot on. Love, lust, eroticism etc. had nothing to do with sex and everything to do with the bite.

I guess I'm just not up to date with these spiffy new teen vamp books.

 

Vampires kissing is nothing new. Think of Bram Stoker's, Dracula. Vampires making love is also not new, not for novels or movies. I would say it is more the norm.

Anne Rice never really showed this side of vampires. Lestat rocks, but so does Alice and Edward in the Twlight series.

 

Here's the link to her FAQ section of her website where she answers it--scroll down to Vampires & Pregnancy: http://stepheniemeyer.com/bd_faq.html

But the main thing is what arch said: We are dealing with pretty much supernatural beings here so anything is possible.

 

I haven't seen it yet, but I can tell you that money is not what makes a movie good. There are so many Canadian movies that are excellent, and they are rarely made for as much money as American movies. There was a recent WWI movie that was made for 20 million and apart from the fact that it was written by a first-time screen writer who wasn't sure what he was doing, was as good as any big budget war movie.

 

Spoilers

So, I finally watched the movie. I think the actress that played Alice did a perfect job. She totally captured her personality. I didn't like the actor that played Edward. He is just not an Edward. I was suprised at how faithful it was to the book.

What really disapointed me though is that it never showed their fangs. I mean what the hell are vampires with out fangs? I at least expected to see fangs during the fight scene.

I am pleased with the fight scene. I'm glad they decided to change that part of the story.

NO FANGS BOOOOOO!

 

But the Cullen's don't have fangs! Remember when Jacob comments on fangs and Bella flips out on him because they don't have any? That would be why they don't have them in the movie.

 

I don't recall that. Is that in Twilight, New Moon, or Breaking dawn, because I haven't finished Eclipse.

I always imagined them with fangs, and I guess I must have purposely ignored that part, lol. In my mind the Cullens grew their fangs out when they hunt, or hiss, or are pissed, or whenever they wish.

 

Vampires without fangs are NOT vampires.

My friends talked me into borrowing and reading Twilight, and I did, and I didn't like it at all. It was very boring, the characters weren't interesting, the "romance" didn't make any sense, and the vampires were practically a joke.

I hope no one gets freakishly mad at me for saying that...