You probably won't have much more luck Maybe you should take notes... I'm having issues with a not-flashback. It's not a flashback but it happens before the scene that preceeds it in my storytelling, by about half an hour or so. Really not so far back I'd want to crack out the flashback language. I have no way to bridge into it from the previous (but later in timeline) scene, since it's from a different character's perspective and I hate the idea of trailing off with a "so what are you doing here anyway lol" as the last line of the scene, especially as it'd mean adding to/cutting some stuff I kinda want in there as the last paragraphs. I can't put the scenes in chronological order because, well, not because the whole novel so far has been out of order. It's been in two different orders which have met up. Emphasising this requires the later-in-time scene to come before the earlier one, both because it's too blatant, and not the right view point to actually reveal it anyway, but if the scenes followed in the correct chronological order it would ruin the impact since the first-in-time scene would set it up too neatly for it to be a surprise (since the focus character's last scene was still a week before present day before I drag her up to date). And the second scene concerned is just a quick conversation of "I'll do this if you do that" that's essential to the plot, but doesn't make for good start-of-a-chapter impact, setting aside my own twisty storytelling and just looking at what looks good. I just don't know how to start this second scene of the chapter, because of its place in the timeline. Do I go with flashback language? ("Katie HAD been doing something I can't be bothered describing...") or just go with "Katie was in the usual past tense doing something blah blah..." and hope that the context comes clear from the discussion? I just feel like it'd be a bit too much to ask when, right after proving that the timeline has normalised, 2 characters have a discussion where it quickly becomes apparent took place a short time before the other scene. I feel like I need the flashback language, but it just doesn't sit right when I look at it on the page, with no lead into it, no instant obvious reason it should be told like that, especially when this is Flashback Day when the characters will be having genuine moments of past-exploration. Like, you know, years back, rather than What I Had For Breakfast. But I LIKE that the timeline is all screwy... Normally I have no problem with it, having written a whole novel and a half in this messed up style already... It's just the presentation of these 2 scenes which are too close together in time but both plot-essential. ARGH normally rambling to the new thread box on a writing forum FIXES things. I must write about 100 of these to every 1 I post but this looks like one I can't figure out myself... :/ Hitting the new thread button. Sorry guys! If you understand my problem at all, what would you advise?