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  1. LaGs

    LaGs Banned

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    Fights are a part of school life...I got in a few up until I was about 15 or so and then I realised that the whole macho/reputation thing that comes with it is completely stupid
     
  2. Link the Writer

    Link the Writer Flipping Out For A Good Story. Contributor

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    I agree. I never understood the need to fight it out like that.
     
  3. Pallas

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    What up tavern?

    Gonna see if I crank out a paragraph or two for the wf scifi contest. Don't know much scifi, but it's okay if I just throw some science terms in there right? Haha
     
  4. Link the Writer

    Link the Writer Flipping Out For A Good Story. Contributor

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    I'm just writing a brief scene in a little time-travel story I just had in my head. A kid from 2245 goes back in time fighting a monster...and lands right into Joseph Stalin's office. I'll post it up for review soon, see what responses I get. 8)
     
  5. Gallowglass

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    There are times when fighting is necessary, to draw a line in the sand and prove you (or your friends) won't be stepped on. Someone hitting a girl is definitely one of those times.
     
  6. Link the Writer

    Link the Writer Flipping Out For A Good Story. Contributor

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    I concur. Any man who thinks it's a good idea to hit a girl should be beaten. Show how much of a "big tough guy" he really is when other guys go at him with fists and feet.
     
  7. TDFuhringer

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    Sitting in Doctor's office. I should have brought a book. Or better, a notebook so I could do some writing. What was I thinking? :)
     
  8. Link the Writer

    Link the Writer Flipping Out For A Good Story. Contributor

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    ^Yah! What was you thinkin'!?

    Well, I've just left my Modern Ireland class and I have one thing to say, and I'm not trying to make attacks on my friends from England...

    Why were the English such dicks to the Irish throughout its history? I mean, you have them passing acts like "Okay, the Irish Parliament cannot make any legislation without approval from Henry VII". You have folks like Cromwell coming in, evicting Irishmen to confiscate their lands, you have the Irish Potatoe Famine and all of that.
     
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    Well, speaking as an entirely neutral party, that's called 'conquest' and the Irish would have done it themselves given half the chance. In fact, Google the slave-raids of Niall of the Nine Hostages and others - tens of thousands of British people captured at a time, conquest of western Britain, using Britain as a theatre for their proxy wars, etc. The Irish are not an innocent party. It was an Irish king who invited the Normans over in the first place.
     
  10. CheddarCheese

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    And those aren't isolated cases either. Persecutions of one type of people (be it nationality, race, religion, etc.) by another happen all the time, everywhere. There have been many examples of unfair treatment of one party by another. It just seems like something humans could live well without - but do anyways. Human 'nature', if you will. Really unfortunate stuff.
     
  11. Pallas

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    Oh yeah, just finished my short story for the wf contest; come on who else is entering, only 4 days left!
     
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    About to start reading your entry Pallas. :) I'm working on my entry. Won't be able to revise it the way I want before the deadline, but I'll do my best in the time remaining.
     
  13. Pallas

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    Cool beans man; I read it four times over, but knowing me there is undoubtedly a word or two out of place, haha. Good luck man, you can do it! :D
     
  14. Ashleigh

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    It's not an "unhappy thread" worthy issue exactly, but I am worrying a lot about my novel. I'm so close and intimate with it that I can't see it from an outside perspective anymore, and I have no idea if it's really good or not. It's at the stage where I really need other people (who like realist women's fiction) to read it and give me their opinion, but that in itself terrifies me. I've spent a year coming up with the concept, planning it, writing it, and now I've gone through two big edits, read-throughs and nit-picks, and the time's come where I can't do any more for it.
    I wrote the synopsis yesterday, which helped me feel more confident about it, but still...It's frightening to think that all this work could've been for nothing. I could've produced a terrible novel.
     
  15. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    Such feelings are inevitable. Especially with something you are so attached to and invested in. Your own opinion of it shouldn't really matter right now, because you created it, so your judgement will be clouded by feelings of doubt and insecurities once the pride starts to slip away. If you want to send it to someone for unbiased general comments then that might be the best thing to do.
     
  16. Ashleigh

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    Well it's kind of vital, really, isn't it? I mean if I sent it off to agents having had no audience to test my work on, then I guess I'd just be asking for disappointment. This is the part I've been most afraid of, though - letting other people read it. Especially if this is the genre they like to read in and would know what works and what doesn't. Of course it'll be invaluable help, but if a set of people tell me that the novel really doesn't work, then that could end it all for me.

    It's a risk I have to take, though. I don't want to be a coward and just send it to agents without getting othet peoples' help first...I suppose that's a good attitude at least, lol.
     
  17. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    Just writing the thing is a risk, because you risk not completing it; so really you are already a good way into the battle. The worst thing you can do is ruin yourself with doubt. I've not seen anything of it but I'm honestly sure it's in some sort of decent shape, even if it's just a first draft.
     
  18. prettyprettyprettygood

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    It's this exact fear that's stopping me even starting the novel I really want to write, so you're doing a heck of a lot better than me! Best of luck getting some good feedback :)
     
  19. Cogito

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    You cannot win if you don't play. No risk, no gain.
     
  20. Ashleigh

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    Thanks everyone. I love the fact everyone on this site understands how it feels, you know - it's great to have that support network. My father says that all women writers are terrible, you see, and then he wonders why I never share my work with him. *Sigh* :rolleyes:
     
  21. Lemex

    Lemex That's Lord Lemex to you. Contributor

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    Your dad doesn't read much I take it. I mean, Christ, The Bronte sisters are all that need to be said.
     
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    I would feel so proud of the fact that I accomplished something like that. Even if it isn't the best novel in the world, you still created something with a life of its own - that is quite an accomplishment.

    As long as you are enjoying the process, and learning along the way, then you've already gained something from it.
     
  23. Ashleigh

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    He reads loads and loads! It's just he prefers emotionless crime fiction as opposed to literary classics or anything remotely contemporary. He'll read it, but he'll let the fact it's written by a woman bother him. He thinks female writers only write stuff that concerns them - well, duh. Most people are inclined to write about things they care about.
    He's just sexist really.


    INFJ, thanks so much. You're right, it is a great accomplishment, but you know how it is - once you reach one goal, you set the bar higher. I'm the sort of person who's never satisfied, haha. x
     
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    Just heard the best insult ever:

    'To paraphrase Bobby Fuller, it looks like you fought a door. And the door won.'
     
  25. Pallas

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    Whoa Ash, you've come a long way! I'm just finishing up, and fiddling with a synopsis now, and damn if the first edit wasn't a seemingly indomitable task, and I still got the second edit to go through. I have ponderous doubts too, yet having polished a novel to a point where you can even enter such a doubting stage is a feat. Be proud of all those frustrating moments that those 91,221 words took to be parsed out of the old cranium! :D Much success, Ash!
     

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