Y'all are a pretty smart, so I was curious as to your opinions. This thread will probably end in significant argument, but whatevs. Also, I know there are a lot of non-U.S. people on this forums, and I'm curious as to your outside opinion. I know Europeans (especially Russians) get a hard-on predicting scenarios for a U.S. collapse. just kidding. (except for Russians) I was having a conversation with my friend the other day, and we talked about what we thought the future of America would look like. As I discussed it, I began to realize how ridiculously pessimistic I was about the whole thing. I'm probably reading wwaaayyyyy too many post-collapse novels, but I find myself seeing little reason why America's isn't going to just look like the Balkans in 20 years. I don't particularly blame any distinct group; I just blame time and the slowly degrading effect of prosperity and wealth on a society. Also, we require so much cheap energy that I have no idea how we could possible come up with a viable alternative to fossil fuels. Its not once oil becomes depleted, just when it becomes expensive. It will tear the fabric of our society, because the whole world oil-trade system is based around supplying a thirsty U.S.. Once others consume levels near ours, it won't be sustainable. Our fault I suppose, seeing as how we told the whole world how awesome the suburban SUV lifestyle is. They wanted a piece of the pie, and low and behold their trying their damned best to look like a bunch of Americans, and there's just not enough pie for everyone. so.......whadddaya think?