When Someone Gets There First

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  1. big soft moose

    big soft moose An Admoostrator Staff Supporter Contributor Community Volunteer

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    not to mention that there's a whole suite of books about boarding schools and kids who have adventures at them... going back to the early 1900s or more.. billy bunter and so on. you can see a lot of greyfriars in the non magical elements of hogwarts
     
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    It shouldn’t be. This is just one person’s interpretation of the story you’re working on. It could even be uninformed. There’s bound to be others who disagree with this and think your story sounds more like NCIS. You shouldn’t let it bother you. Just carry on with the idea you’re working on and let these interpretations warble on.
     
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    I just googled Willy the Wizard and it was only a 36 page long book. Why would she even go to court just because she got her ideas from a non-popular book, heck it even seemed forgotten. I didn't even know what is was until I googled it.
     
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    Are you suggesting it's ok to plagiarise as long as you're not doing it from something popular?
     
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    Selbbin The Moderating Cat Staff Contributor

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    Well, there was The Books of Magic series for a start. A boy wizard with rounded glasses and a pet owl. Not stolen, but it had been done. And done before that, and done before that.

    Basically, Harry Potter was nothing new. It was simply done in a way that resonates.
     
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    Well as long as you don't get caught, kidding! But no don't plagiarize.
     
  7. Cephus

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    Nor is anything else. There is nothing new under the sun, just combinations of things that have been done time and time again.
     
  8. Homer Potvin

    Homer Potvin Get off my Balzac... Staff Contributor

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    Not to mention the whole orphan, evil step parents, underdog, parents of mysterious origin, school bully, dark lord, chosen one prophesy...
     
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    Honestly I think writers have the ability to invent entirely fictional problems inside their heads that they likely won't encounter.


    i hate it when that happens, i remember my book being compared to x men (i don't like x men, even when i have enjoyed it, it never sold me on the premise with maybe the expectation of new mutants) by a writer group and felt insulted because while they share the same BASIC premise. there's a much more fleshed out and differnt reason behind why everything is happening. and i felt kind of insulted.
     
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    That one goes way back. It's a well-used mythological trope—double parentage where the real parents are not only good people but usually gods or royalty, and the MC, who should be on a throne in the magical Other World, is stuck toiling in ignominy with sinister or lowly step-parents, prohibited from using whatever special abilities they have.

    Both Jesus and Moses fit this type, as does Pan's Labyrinth.
     
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    How's this for some late-to-the-partyism?

    I'm going to try to write something original in the most done-to-death genre in existence. Zombie Apocalypse.

    (pun intended)
     
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    With vampires who keep contracting food poisoning.
     
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    From what I understand it was proven that Potter came first. The woman was trying to pull a scam.
     
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    Selbbin The Moderating Cat Staff Contributor

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    The ipod wasn't first. The ipad wasn't first. The mac wasn't first. Windows wasn't first. Google wasn't, or facebook, or YouTube, or Explorer, or many of the current dominant players.

    Don't be first. Be best.
     
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  15. GraceLikePain

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    That reminds me of how the Soviets tried to be "first" in the space race, but they kept going after the most meaningless things: first man in space, first woman in space, first satellite in space, etc. They didn't get much use out of their satellites, and America's scientific approach changed the way we do things here on Earth.

    Oh yeah, the Soviets also got "first people to die in space." Poor guys.
     
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    Why would your writing be influenced by an awful show? Other than in a positive way, I mean. Truly bad stories are useful because they teach you what you don't want to do.

    I actually find them strangely inspiring. Some of my favorite ideas were directly born out of an intense desire to write the exact opposite of a story I hated.
     
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    I remember I wrote this zombie story way back when (a long time ago!) and set it in a prison. Then twd basically did it in their comics before I put mine out and I was like, "welp, that was fun - DELETE".
     
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    So technically, you got there first. That always feels good.
     

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