1. Laimtoe

    Laimtoe New Member

    Oct 14, 2006
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    Who and Whom. This is how to use the right one at the right time.

    Discussion in 'Word Mechanics' started by Laimtoe, Sep 15, 2008.

    Here's an artivle written at http://web.ku.edu/~edit/whom.html that I found interesting.

    “Who” and “whoever” are subjective pronouns; “whom” and “whomever” are in the objective case. As simple and important as that distinction is, many people have difficulty deciding on the proper usage of “who” and “whom” in sentences.
    The two sentences below illustrate the easy usage in which “who” is clearly the subject and “whom” is clearly the object. In such simple cases, virtually everyone can determine the proper choice:

    Who is that masked man? (subject)

    The men, four of whom are ill, were indicted for fraud. (object)

    When “who” is not the main subject of the sentence, however, many people become confused. They tinker and change who to “whom.”

    It was Thomas Jefferson, I think, who was the third president of the United States.

    Notice that “who,” not “whom,” is still the correct form as the subject of the clause that follows. The proper name, Thomas Jefferson, could be substituted for “who” to make a perfectly good sentence:

    Thomas Jefferson was the third president of the United States.

    As a ready check in such sentences, simply substitute the personal pronoun “he/him” or “she/her” for “who/whom.” If he or she would be the correct form, the proper choice is who.” If “him” or “her” would be correct, use “whom.”

    This technique of substituting a personal pronoun for the relative pronoun works nicely whenever you have difficulty deciding whether to use “who” or “whom,” assuming that you have no difficulty using the proper form of personal pronouns.

    Even when the word order must be altered slightly, you can use the technique:

    Mrs. Dimwit consulted an astrologer whom she met in Seattle. (She met him in Seattle.)

    Jones is the man whom I went fishing with last spring. (I went fishing with him.)

    Joyce is the girl who got the job. (She got the job.)

    Whom can we turn to in a time of crisis? (Can we turn to her?)

    The delegates differed as to who they thought might win. (Not whom. Here the entire clause is the object of the preposition. Substitution is particularly helpful in cases such as this. They thought he might win.)

    Who is that masked man? (subject)

    The men, four of whom are ill, were indicted for fraud. (object)

    And, now, for a really tough test (or, at least, most people trip up on it):

    I decided to vote for whoever called me first.

    Give it to whoever deserves it.

    It's “whoever” in both cases. Even though you can read the first sentence as “I decided to vote for him” (which would make it “whomever”), the entire phrase “(he) called me first” is the object of the preposition “for.” So, it's “whoever.” It's the same for the second example: “...he deserves it” wins out.

    Three “easy-to-use” rules
    so you'll always get it correct

    Rule #1: Substitute “he/him” or “she/her”: If it's either “he” or “she,” then it's “who;” if it's “him” or “her,” then it's “whom.”

    Rule #2: Every verb with a tense in a sentence must have a subject. And that word is always in the nominative case, so it's “who.” For example: In this sentence, “I decided to vote for whoever called me first”:
    • “I” is the subject of “decided”
    • “he” (whoever) is the subject of the verb “called.”

    In the sentence, “Give it to whoever deserves it”:([You] give it to whoever deserves it.)
    • “he” (whoever) is the subject of the verb “deserves.”
    This rule supersedes the first rule as it relates to who” and “whom.”

    Note: Related to this rule is one that says: The subject of a phrase is always attached to that phrase — no matter what. For example:
    Ask whoever reads that book to answer the question.

    Break down the sentence thusly:
    (You) ask him (he reads that book) to answer the question.

    In the phrase “he reads that book,” you cannot separate the subject “he” from the phrase to which it is attached.

    If you remember these two rules — substitute “he/him” or “she/her,” and that every verb with a tense must have a subject — you should solve the “who/whom” quandary every time.

    If you apply those two rules and you're still not sure, apply the all-important Rule #3.

    Rule #3: Give it a sincere and honest effort to determine is it's “who” or “whom.” If it takes more than a 30 seconds to figure it out, pick the one that sounds best to the ear (read it aloud) and move on. Why? Because even grammarians are likely to squabble over which to use. But always — always — apply rules #1 and #2 before using Rule #3.
  2. Nilfiry

    Nilfiry Senior Member

    Aug 4, 2008
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    Tee hee. I was thinking about making a post concerning this. I have worked on "Who" and "Whom" alot and yet I still never got it. Weird. I don't think I will ever master this.
  3. marina

    marina Contributor Contributor

    Sep 7, 2008
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    Whoever wants to practice picking the right word, click here or here.
  4. kehl

    kehl New Member

    Aug 30, 2008
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    7/10;5/10 without reading more than the first paragraph of your post. Halfway through the second test "who/m" started to lose it's meaning for me. I, honest to god, thought "whom" was just a very proper word that really didn't get used anymore. I guess that's why i'm in community college, eh?
  5. CDRW

    CDRW Contributor Contributor

    Apr 16, 2008
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    This is the twenty first century "whom" is dead! ;)
  6. Scattercat

    Scattercat Active Member

    Aug 28, 2008
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    Under there.
    No, no. "Who is dead." Subjective case and all.
  7. Gannon

    Gannon Contributor Contributor

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  8. EyezForYou

    EyezForYou Active Member

    May 26, 2007
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    9/10. Second link doesn't work for some reason.
  9. mammamaia

    mammamaia nit-picker-in-chief Contributor

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