Little Stevie's adventures in Hollywood

By Xoic · Feb 13, 2023 · ·
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  1. Close Encounters is really the story of Little Stevie Speilberg getting swept up from his ordinary life and into the exciting world of Hollywood. You gotta look deep into the subtext to see it though. He used Richard Dreyfus as his alter ego in Close Encounters and Jaws, and both movies feature elements of his own life and the excitement he experienced getting into Hollywood. I know, that's a lot to swallow. Guess I'd better start to back it up.

    Note the UFOs are mainly seen as spectacular lights (lighting units). They bring an excitement and magic with their coming that wasn't there previously, and when the mother ship lands it resembles a stage with the scientists as an audience, and before the show really begins there's a symphonic warmup similar to what you would experience at one of the big movie palace theaters with an orchestra pit. Also note Roy Neary built miniature models, such as his model railroad setup, showing that his hobbies from childhood already resembled those of a special effects person, and with the coming of the UFOs (representing in a way Inspiration) he was struck obsessively with the creative bug, as were many others across the country, and they made the trek to the meeting point (Hollywood, city of bright lights). That creativity made him and the rest of the artists weirdos who became outcasts from ordinary society so their own families disowned them, leaving them free to travel to where those skills drew them.

    In Jaws Captain Quint represented the old-school directors like John Ford or Howard Hawks, who came up through the school of hard knocks and learned everything on the job when there was no film school, and Dreyfus was the college educated city boy he made fun of incessantly (which the old school directors did when Speilberg's generation emerged from the first film school). All Dreyfus' equipment represented the newfangled special effects gear the old guys thought was ridiculous, but it ended up saving the day, just as Speilberg's generation saved the failing Hollywood studios, which were out of touch with the new post-60's generation of viewers.

    When I found this clip I knew I was on to something:


    He talks about the event that started his filmmaking obsession/carreer, and it involved a toy train setup. Just like the one Richard Dreyfuss had in the living room in Close Encounters.



    I wish I could find the clip I saw long ago, an interview with Dreyfuss, where he specifically said he had played Speilberg's alter ego in three movies. Offhand I can only think of two he was in, Close Encounters and Jaws. Wonder what I'm missing? The original lead for Close Encounters was going to be Bob Balaban, who also is Jewish and resembles Speilberg to a large extent. Balaban is still in the movie, he plays the interpretor at the beginning. He also has a beard and wears glasses. But Dreyfuss said he convinced Speilberg that he (Dreyfus) had to play the lead, because he needs a guy who's a kid at heart. Speilberg realized he was right, and history was made. I agree, as much as I like Bob Balaban as an actor, and agree he does resemble Speilberg, he's too dry and academic to make the part as fun and exciting as Dreyfus made it. In the same interview Dreyfuss also said he and Speilberg both knew they were going to change Hollywood, to make a big impact on it. They were heady days for the young up-and-comers at that crucial time in movie history. The time when special effects-driven movies would take over.
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  1. Xoic
    Sorry, I know this is rough. I'm copying my notes in and somewhat developing them here. I'll follow up in the comments (you know how I do) and it will all make a lot more sense I hope. More notes:

    In a biography I read Speilberg said he could never have made Close Encounters later in his career because he could never see himself leaving his family, but at the time he was in a bad relationship with Amy Irving. The pull of creativity and the Hollywood life was stronger than the anchor of a bad relationship, so he responded to it, and history was made. I think what that really represented was the opposition between the desire to live a nice ordinary life (family life where you strive to keep up with the Joneses) and the creative life, which normal society does not condone. Artists have always been branded as decadent and weird because they don't try to be normal—being normal would rule out creativity.

    Him essentially destroying the house and tearing up the yard (including a neighbor's duck enclosure) to build the huge mountain in the living room represents his creative obsession destroying his nice normal life and his family. It tends to do that if your family isn't supportive of your art and expects you to adhere to society's restrictive norms. And I like the way the obsession kept growing—he kept making bigger and bigger mountains and getting weirder about it, forgetting about everything else. This is the way the creative bug is—it will destroy everything else, or everything else destroys it, unless you have a family that understands art and supports your habit. Also note that, because he made a sculpture (special effects miniature) he knew what the back of the mountain looked like, whereas all the people who drew or painted it only knew the front of it. His specialty as a sculptor gave him a more complete understanding than theirs. I think he's saying that he (Spielberg) always had an interest in building models and sculpting, and that led to his interest in special effects, which of course was hugely instrumental in his generation's (and his) takeover of Hollywood and the creation of the Blockbuster.
  2. Xoic
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    What are these but powerful Hollywood-style lighting units?

    And note the similarities here:

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    Finally, the Mothership looks like an upside-down city of glittering lights.

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    In the desert. Well, that's Hollywood, isn't it? They deliberately turned the ship upside-down to somewhat hide the resemblance to a city.
  3. Xoic
    Building a toy train setup involves a lot of skills—exactly the same kind that a special effects person needs, at least in pre-CGI days. You make the terrain from paper mache and plaster, put little trees and bushes and rocks on it, make little buildings and install little lights in them. This is exactly the stuff a special effects team did in the 70's.

    And anyone who's done any sculpting or building of terrain sets (like for stopmotion movies for example, trust me, I know of what I speak) knows how dirty your clothes get. You get plaster stuck in your hair and all over your hands, dried, so you have to crack it off in big chunks. This is exactly what happens to Neary when he builds the big mountain set in his living room (the place where formerly his train setup was—like everything else in his life it got pushed aside). Actually I think he built the mountain right on top of his train setup, on the same table. Well well, that seems powerfully metaphorical!

    This is the creative obsession. When it hits hard you forget about everything else. You stop eating and sleeping and you work like a maniac. It starts to affect you. You become zombielike because you're not sleeping enough. Literally you'll wake in the middle of the night struck by intense inspiration, go to the studio (wherever it may be, in the basement, the spare bedroom, or just the typewriter in the home office) and you lay down what you must, before it's gone. Or you let it die. This is not conducive to good middle-class ordinary family life if you want to keep up with the Joneses (unless we're talking Indiana Jones maybe). I think that's captured brilliantly in Close Encounters.

    And I love that to get to Devil's Tower, they have to drive against all traffic. Everybody else is going the other way. This is a metaphor. When you're struck by the art bug, you live differently from most. They want to live their conventional lives, and to think creatively, to cover yourself with the materials of creativity, is not normal. You go against the flow of the rest of the people on your street. Even when there's danger (like a fake nerve gas conspiracy designed to clear everybody out of the area). Yo go where you must, you follow the muse, wherever it leads.

    And where it led Roy Neary is into a spaceship that resembles Hollywood and a big palace-style movie theater at the same time, with little Hollywood lighting units swarming all around it, that lifted him out of his drab ordinarry life and into the skies. That was his going to Hollywood to live the dream, where he got to play with much bigger and better train sets and lighting units and sharks.
  4. Xoic
    I can't find a picture, but in the Mothership scene there are banks of movie cameras all pointing at the ship filming it and big lighting units set up on tall posts with thick electrical cables snaking all over the ground. It resembles a studio set during a film production. The same was true in the big conference room scene.

    When all the lights went out in Los Angeles as the ships flew by overhead, LA looked a heck of a lot like a movie miniature with little lights all over it, like the toy train setup, or the Mothership. Once you see this stuff, it's all over the movie.

    When the little boy first sees the UFOs in the sky outside the house he smiles and says "Toys!" Like a toy train setup? I suspect this is to link the lights and the UFOs with a child's imagination. The child is taken away by the aliens before Neary is (and he's not frightened). I think he represents Speilberg as a little kid, when the movie bug first bit him.
  5. Xoic
    Big hint—the little aliens come out of what looks like a movie screen under the Mothership, and then Neary goes into it. Scroll back up and look at the—ah screw it, I'll just repost it. So much easier:

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    This is directly under the movie palace marquee with the flashing lights moving across it. Under the glowing city of lights that looks like Hollywood. And is in the desert. With banks of movie cameras filming it, and massive lighting units all over the field. This is not really subtle at all once you start to notice it. In fact it's like "How did I never see it before??!"
  6. Xoic
    Who else emerges from the movie screen? Lost pilots from the 40's and people from all kinds of earlier times. Almost as if we're watching old movies on the screen, only the people are emerging from it, solid and real.

    And I just noticed—who do we see in the foreground of that little GIF just above? Bob Balaban, the other guy chosen to play Speilberg (watching himself be escorted into the movie screen?), and Francois Truffaut, one of Speilberg's idols, a renouned French director. It's definitely a movie about making movies.
  7. Xoic
    I just ordered the 4k versions of both of these movies yesterday, and am looking forward to watching them tomorrow when they come in. Ironic, that. I also ordered 4k versions of The Shining, Full Metal Jacket, and 2001, all in one package.

    In another bit of irony, I fully believe it was from 2001 that Speilberg (a close friend of Kubrick's, chosen to finish AI after his death) got the idea of a person entering a movie screen. That would take a heck of a lot of 'splainin'!

    Rather than try to go through it all myself, Ill let Rob Ager (my mentor for all this movie analysis stuff) do it:



    I'm quite sure Speilberg was aware of these hidden meanings in Kubrick's films. Ager has devoted a lot of time and a lot of videos to figuring out Kubrick's tricks, and he used a lot of them. Far more than any director I'm aware of. And he buried them deep. He was a chess master and loved to crack secret codes.

    2001 is also filled with movie and fimmaking references, such as the space station that looks like a film reel spinning endlessly:

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    And look at the lighting units, in a scene where a camera features prominently and there seem to be several movie cameras or something on stands aimed at the monolith:

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    'Nuff said.
  8. AntPoems
    Interesting stuff. The Close Encounters stuff in particular seems spot on - and now you're making me want to rewatch it myself; it's been over a decade since the last time I saw it. Great movie, whether taken literally or metaphorically.

    I'm not as sure about Jaws, but the changes Spielberg made to the story seem to support your ideas. In the book, Hooper dies in the shark cage (in a graphic scene that impressed the hell out of teenage me). And instead of the movie's explosive climax, at the end of the book, the barrels that Quint harpooned the shark with finally tire it out, just as they were intended to. The Chief is floating alone in the water, watching the shark swim towards him and preparing to meet his maker, and it just ... dies. It's probably the most anticlimactic ending I've ever read. Definitely a good change for the movie, whether it's meant to symbolize something or not.
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  9. Xoic
    Just ran across this in my notes for Jaws:

    Ironic? Quint looked at Hooper’s laid-out apparatus and said “What’re you, some kinda half-assed astronaut?" In his next film with Spielberg (Close Encounters) he would be exactly that. ​
  10. Xoic
    Oh sorry @AntPoems —I completely missed your post!!

    "I'm not as sure about Jaws, but the changes Spielberg made to the story seem to support your ideas."

    Yeah, it's a lot less clear in Jaws, but the fact that Dreyfus is in it and looks so much like Speilberg helped convince me. Especially when I found that interview where Dreyfus clearly stated that he "Played Speilberg's alter-ego in three movies."

    There's a book callled Easy Riders, Raging Bulls that details the rise of the New Hollywood, including Speilberg. It becomes totally clear in the book that the old studios were all going bankrupt, largely because the aging tycoons who had created them and were still running them were entirely out of sync with the new post-hippie generation and were unable to make movies the kids liked. They were all forced to hire students from USC—the university that hosted the first film school in the world, and which gave us lumianries like Franicis Ford Coppola, George Lucas, Dennis Hopper, Paul Schrader, Martin Scorcese, and many other greats of their generation. Speilberg actually wasn't one of them, only because he didn't get good enough grades in high school to get into college, but he did hang out with them all at the beach house where Amy Irving and Margot Kidder lived. He either married Irving or lived with her, I don't remember which. Their relationship went sour, and that's when he launched his carreer in television and then Hollywood.

    Movies these guys made, like Easy Rider directed by Dennis Hopper, and Bonnie and Clyde, actually saved the studios and they started making big money, leading eventually to the creation of the Hollywood Blockbuster.

    Sorry, getting off track. Anyway, my point is that the book also paints a clear picture of the way the old-school directors and head honchos made fun of these hippie, mostly drug-addicted young college kids (Lucas and Spielberg were the clean-cut ones). Reading this, it clicked—this is what Quint represented.

    But admittedly I have a lot less material for this one. It seems clear cut to me though, knowing he did what he did in CE3K, it seems quite likely, esecially him being close friends with Kubrick and understanding the tricks he had used to encode messages in his films. I think it's because Jaws came first. It was probably his first attempt at including any hidden messages, and he went easy with it as a test. Then he cut loose in Close Encounters. That's my theory anyway, and I'm sticking with it! :p
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  11. Xoic
    Another strange fact about Jaws most people probably aren't aware of, but not really a hidden narrative.

    Speilberg loves Norman Rockwell's paintings, and collects them. And several of the actors in Jaws were chosen specifically because they look like "Rockwell" characters. Strange comical faces or bodies, etc.

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    "That's some bad hat, Harry."

    I can't find any more right now, these people are extras, not main characters, so it's hard to find pics of them online. But if you watch it just keep an eye open for them. I remember in particular a shot of a fat woman on a pool float out on the water that looks extremely Rockwell-esque. Several of them are in the city council scene, including 'Bad Hat Harry' above.
  12. Xoic
    The movies came in. I mentioned on a thread yesterday that I had ordered 4k versions of Jaws, Close Encounters, and a 3-film Kubrick collection, consisting of 2001, The Shining, and Full Metal Jacket. I just put in Close Encounters and noticed something that confirms a few things for me. Check the very beginning:



    I mean the very beginning. What do you see, while the music is playing? Here, this is a picture of it:

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    Now check the beginning of 2001:



    After the MGM logo disappears—that wasn't there in theatrical releases, they added it to home video versions.

    Black rectangle turned on its side (compared to the way we normally see the monolith), with music playing. If you watched the Meaning of the Monolith videos I posted yesterday, Ager gives strongly compelling evidence (proof if you ask me) that the black rectangle at the beginning of 2001 is the surface of the monolith, turned 90 degrees from upright. The movie screen itself is the monolith. And the big point of that hidden narrative is that Bowman realizes, as an old man, that he's a flat image on a movie screen, and in fact the entire world he inhabits is flat.

    Speilberg did exactly the same thing with the beginning of Close Encounters. And as I said above, Roy Neary goes into what looks like a movie screen at the end, as his doppelganger Bob Balaban (the original actor chosen to play Speilberg's alter ego) watches, alongside Francois Truffaut, a movie director. This is enough to convince me beyond a doubt that he was fully aware of what Kubrick had done in 2001. I don't know if Kubrick confided in him at a private screening in his house, or if Speilberg was just astute enough to figure it out from watching the movie a few times (that's quite possible). But he knew. Oh, he knew...

    So what does it mean? In Close Encounters I think it just means Speilberg is aware of what Kubrick had done, and is linking his movie to it and using some of the same ideas.
  13. Xoic
    Yes, he did build the mountain sculpture on his railroad miniature. First he built a smallish one from modeling clay, then when he really lost it and started throwing bricks and dirt in through the kitchen window he made the big one (over the form of an upside-down trash can). He started by sculpting shaving cream and then mashed potatoes. Each was a progressively better sculpting medium, and each model got bigger and more realistic, until the big one, that utterly dominated the living room. By this point his family had left him and he was seen as the crazy guy who walks around covered with dirt and all kinds of weird materials. Exactly the opposite of a good upstanding suburban home-owner. The artistic visions are almost driving him crazy, and he's forced to do their bidding, it's too strong for him to resist though it's costing him everything.

    Then, near the end of the movie, at last we see the real thing. In a sense we've been moving toward it the entire time, as he gradually figured out what these weird visions were. He could only figure it out by making them, one after the other (he's a discovery artist, responding to an inner compulsion he doesn't understand).

    But here's the part that struck me as really cool, that I never noticed before. Now he and his artist-woman, the right one for him (she has the inner visions too, and so does her son) move toward and onto the mountain—the very one they've all been obsessively drawing and sculpting etc. It dwarfs them now, all those incredible textures they've been drawing and sculpting in successively better realism and detail are now life-sized, and they're climbing among them. Only Neary knew there's a huge flat area on the back of the mountain, big enough to serve as a landing field, because he's a sculptor. He built it in the round, whereas the sketchers and painters all just did the front view. It's as if he created his new world—his new life—by stages, from the stuff of his visions, and then was able to step into it.

    This will be the setting where the final act takes place, where he gets lifted off the ground and whisked away to his dream world in the sky (the Hollywood career he's always dreamed about). So cool that it began as just a weird vision in his head that he had to realize again and again as he figured out its shape and textures, and now he lives in it. Just as he ended up living the dream of being a Hollywood director of special effects movies.

    That blows my mind—especially the fact that Speilberg could encode all of it so that we didn't even notice, no matter how many times we watched it. That is an incredible talent.

    It's really the story of a man who thought he was a normal suburban husband/father, but discovered he was an artist driven by powerful visions that his family didn't share. But as he moved toward the place that was calling to him (and everyone else was moving the other way like good obedient sheeple), he met others driven by the same kind of vision. This kind of artistic vision really does alienate you from the normal people. But it can also give you wings to fly.
  14. Friedrich Kugelschreiber
    I think it's spelled "Spielberg"
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  15. Xoic
    Lol I discovered that last night in the credits to the movie. Whoops!! Spellcheck failed!!
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